I am always surprised nobody likes my equipment ideas. I guess nobody has cash? I personally cannot stand to lose money... makes my damn skin crawl. Buying new to me is like lighting money on fire. I would rather tie up money in something rather than throw away 25k in payments over 3-4 years. Hell saving the difference between buying used is better than the banks are paying in a money market account. I sold one guy a loaded 08 T320 with 74.0 hours and saved him 20k off of a new one. I sold another guy a Case 445ct with 110 hours and saved him 17k. I sold another guy a Bobcat 430 mini-x with 76.0 hours and saved him about 9k. What is the difference between these machines and new one? Is the dealer going to pick up and drop off a machine when yours goes down under warranty?