Job passed on, is this right?

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Acute Cut, Apr 16, 2002.

  1. Acute Cut

    Acute Cut LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 980

    So, a local competitor just got some big job i guess, so he is passing on his other "big" job because he cant to do bothl. I have NOT seen the place yet, but i know some of my friendly competition has been talking about wanting it. As i understand it is 42 vacant lots in an upcoming housing development. I mow them twice a month. The guy that is sending them over was doing the work with a 52" lazer and he said it took him 8-10 minutes per lawn. The he went and tirmmed and blew down sidewalks. His price to them was 363 per time. So, for those of you less mathematiclly challenged (which i face to sometimes) that is double that rate and you get the monthly total. It seems rather LOW to me. What do yall think? equation again........

    42 empty lots in newer housing development + 8-10 minutes per lawn + them trimming and blowing sidewalks=363(?). Man this sounds too wierd.

    Second question:
    I have a customer that i mow 1.5 acres for, 80$ per time basically. She wants to add two more acres. (All basically flat with mostly open areas/field mowing). She also has an air stip next to her property. 8 ACRES! Her current provider for the air strip come out with hs tractor and brush hog and mows it. He gets 132$ per time. Perhaps i am losing my mind here, but that seems REALLY low. I am thinking about bidding 300 month flat rate. I know she will go NO higher. I figure ill buy them Acre Ease things to save Major amounts of time. Anyone ever use them acre ease? Tips, ideas, help?

    I dont know, it late, i tired, but curious none the less. Have a good Spring all. May your phones Never stop rining. lol.
     
  2. southside

    southside LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 790

    Tractor/slasher (bush hog) can cut at a phenomenal speed in the
    right conditions. Much faster than any z mower. My record is
    16 acres in 2 hours. Used to slash a park,53 acres in 12 hours.
    50hp tractor with 5' slasher. That park is now being cut in 7.5 hours with a New Holland 5640 with 6' slasher.
     
  3. Big G

    Big G LawnSite Member
    Posts: 48

    According to the info he/you are giving, it figures out to around 10.5 hrs to do the whole job (10 min mow + 5 min for edge & blow per lot X 42 lots) at $363 for the whole job, thats $34.57 per hour.

    So, the question is, what is your going rate & is this 8 - 10 min to mow really accurate. I'm sure you will approximate the square footage when making your decision. It certainly would not involve drive time from job to job so it would be tons more efficient than other smaller jobs. So the $34 per hour is a net earning with no drive time to speak of being built in.
     
  4. Russo

    Russo LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 287

    Boy. That's right on the border line. If I needed the work , I would probably do it. Not bad money for 1 day's work for a solo like me in this part of the country.

    Insterested to hear if anyone else out there would do it, and why or why not.

    Landscraper.
     
  5. Pro-Cut Lawns

    Pro-Cut Lawns LawnSite Member
    Posts: 71

    If it did work out to 34.00 per hour I would jump on it. However, I question mowing them only twice a month and being able to do them in 8 to 10 minutes. Seems like there would be a heavy growth to contend with only mowing twice per month. This time of year in this area I have weeklys that get out of hand from week to week.

    I also may not be understanding your post completely. If they are vacant lots where are the walks he is trimming and blowing off? Are they walks at neighboring houses to the vacant lots?
     
  6. Acute Cut

    Acute Cut LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 980

    Ok, i checked it out today. Basically it is an expensive up and coming neighborhood. It is gated and everybody has deisnger yards and driveways. It is build around a golf course. (Mostly underwater from what i could tell, hehe) There are 42 empty lots around this place. In between houses and the such. All the land is divided so builders can come and pick and choose and build. The home owners assos wants to keep the empty lots looking appeasing. I bid it today. She said they paid the last guy 11,000 a year to do it. When she said they wanted him to go from weekly to bi weekly he split. They got some road work they are gonna do so they have to make budget cuts. I bid it at 8400$ OR 8400$-10% if they pay lump sum in the beginning. This saved like 900 dollars or something or other. I have to email her a written bid tonight. I wont get a chance to show real quality work out there because the lots are just empty grassy areas. They are not too long right now and most are rather thin, so i will basically be able to fly through them. I do NOT see 10 minutes per lawn at all. SInce all the roads re already layed out they all have curbs. He had to edge them once a year. LOL. Anyways, i bid it, who knows. If i did get it though (Lump sum assumed) i would definately go out and buy another lazer. I sold mine this year due to taxes. Funny hugh? ALl my winter year around payers went under (commercial cuts) after Sept 11. What can ya do? Oh well, god looked out for me and kept my head above water. I think it is about time to start swimming. :)
     
  7. Soupy

    Soupy LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,125

    Is your bid for weekly or Bi-Weekly? If it's By-Weekly then you are not helping them at all save money on their Budget. You would be about $3000 higher then the last guy. But If it's weekly then you might have a good chance of getting it. Sounds like a good oppratunity to get your Business seen in a quality neighborhood. Hope you have truck signs.

    Good luck to you. Hope it pans out for you.


    Soupy
     
  8. Acute Cut

    Acute Cut LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 980

    I bid the bi weekly mowing higher than weekly because the grass will be taller and it will work my machines harder. If they went to weekly, i would drop the price considerably.
     
  9. KirbysLawn

    KirbysLawn Millenium Member
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    Let me get this correct...the last guy made 11k, when told bi-weekly he hit the road?

    Now, knowing that, you are bidding $8400 or $7560 if they pay a lump sum? Up to 3400 less for more work? Why?
     
  10. nu83

    nu83 LawnSite Member
    from omaha
    Posts: 238

    Because hes doing 1/2 the work in theory. The last guy charged 11k doing it every week, now hes charging $8400 for evey other week, which is considerably more per mow. Up to $3400 less for 1/2 the work actually Kirby.
     

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