John Deere 4100 Tractor

Discussion in 'Tractors' started by ToroLandscaper, Aug 20, 2005.

  1. ToroLandscaper

    ToroLandscaper LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Do you guys think i should try to gety one of these or just wait for a year or two and get a bigger better one........or should i try to go ahead and try to get it

    How much would some one use a back hoe any way?
  2. Itsgottobegreen

    Itsgottobegreen LawnSite Silver Member
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    I don't have a backhoe. The kubota B-2910 that we are buying this winter will be getting a backhoe at some point. If I need one now I get my buddies bobcat 337 (cab and A/C) mini track hoe for $250 a day. A backhoe will run you $6000 for a good one, $4000-5000 for a cheap one. The cheap ones hook to the 3pt and put a ton of stress on the rear end. The good ones have a subframe that put the stress across the whole tractor.

    But just the loader and tractor get a lot done. You always find an exuse to use it. The brush hog and box scraper are the most used attachments. But the snow plow and blower are the payup making ones. I have a power broom, snow plow, 3pt snow blower, brush hog, box scraper, 6 way rear blade, loader, 60" MMM, tiller, etc.
  3. start2finish

    start2finish LawnSite Senior Member
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    Try bush hog, they make aftermarket loaders and backhoes.
    Also Woods, they make loaders and backhoes
  4. Ironmower

    Ironmower LawnSite Member
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    I had a 4100 I just replaced with a 4300 4x4 and that 4100 had a backhoe for 2000 hours and never gave an inch on the frame. I don't see how that would even be a remote possibility unless the backhoe was meant for a 4700 or 4800 type tractor.
  5. ToroLandscaper

    ToroLandscaper LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Well guys i think i am going to want a bigger tractor or a bobcat so i think im goin to wait a year or two and just get something that i REALLY like instead of settleing for less.
  6. ToroLandscaper

    ToroLandscaper LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Another Question Which is better a hydrostatic tractor or a gear tracor???
    I would think a hydrostatic
  7. Smalltimer1

    Smalltimer1 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Depends on what kind of work you want to do.

    For loader work, a hydro is nice so there are no shifts when changing directions. But for absolute heavy duty work (tilling, plowing, etc.) a gear drive can't be beat, as it is the most efficient driveline. Hydros rob horsepower, and that means less pushing power if you run a loader.

    The JD 790 and 990 are great gear drive tractors in your horsepower range. They are the same as the old 755, 855, and 955 models made from '79-'93, just with a more modern control panel and better electronics. They are also cheaper than the 4000 series tractors in the size you are considering.
  8. ToroLandscaper

    ToroLandscaper LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Ok thats very helpfull i think i want to look at gear driven ones...another question i am looking at between 25 - 32 Hp whats a good tractor and also what do you think about Kubota and Deere
  9. Smalltimer1

    Smalltimer1 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    The JD 790 is a 27hp model, just right for what you're looking for. The 4x4 model starts at $12,300 (but yes there is a 4x2 790), but when compared to a similar sized 4000 series tractor with similar horsepower as well as a Kubota L-series, the 790 is a much better value being right at $2,000 less than a 4200/4300 tractor and about the same difference less than a Kubota of the same size.

    I've had reasonable experience on the 790 and 4300 but I can't really tell you much about the Kubota as far as performance/durability. Personally if I was in your position, the 790 would be the most economical and cost effective machine in the running. You get a few more creature comforts with the 42/4300's and the Kubotas, but you don't need but so much useless crap on a loader tractor, the extra stuff just gets in the way. The 790 is a basic, no frills, utility tractor. It is basically the same machine as the old 655/755/855/955 machines built from 1979-1993.

    JD parts will definitely be cheaper than Kubota, just because JD has a lot of parts warehouses around the country and getting a part in won't be too much trouble with JD and they can get it in the next day if you order before 2:30 in the afternoon I believe. Kubota doesn't have as many parts warehouses, so you will have more down time if you have a mechanical problem due to waiting for parts.
  10. hosejockey2002

    hosejockey2002 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    This can certainly happen, however, most aftermarket backhoes are available with a subframe that ties in with the loader frame and goes all the way back to the hoe. If you go this route, and NOT with a 3-point mount backhoe, you pretty much eliminate the danger of breaking the tractor in half.

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