[QUOTE=BeeCreekLawns; My plan for bidding is to guess amount of time and multiply by $25. I am sure I will misjudge and lose but I have to get started some how Rudy, I'm brand new to the biz like you, and to be honest, scared to death of over or under-bidding jobs! So what I did was, I went and bought a measuring wheel. I don't plan to use it on small yards where it will usually just be my minimum price, but for bigger areas I feel it will come in handy, at least untill I get into the swing of things and get better at estimating spaces and times. Right now, I'm terrible at estimating large spaces. The wheels can get expensive, but I found mine at a wholesale tool store for $10. Might be something to consider if you don't already have one.