Just got a quote on new system

Discussion in 'Irrigation' started by Bob E, Aug 20, 2004.

  1. Bob E

    Bob E LawnSite Member
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    I have gotten two quotes on a new irrigation system for home. Right now we are looking at jut doing the front yard.

    this is a lawn renovation project that has "snowballed". I thought I would just overseed this fall, but decided t have some drainage issues fixed by a total regrade of the front and back yard. Right now my grass and weeds are dying a slow death from round up (applied a week ago and again yesterday Thursday). The grading contractor starts Wednesday, so I thought this would be the perfect time to put in an irrigation system (after the grading is done and right before I seed.

    The two quotes I got are similar, one recommends 27 heads the other 28. Both are using 5 zones. (Front yard approx 15,000 ft2). One quote was for $2,220 the other for $2,800.

    The one I am leaning toward is the $2,220. Not because of price, but because he seemed very knowledgeable and was willing to answer all of my questions. What he is proposing is this:

    -15 Hunter I-20 rotors

    -12 weathermatic LX sprays

    -irritrol RD-900 9 zone controller

    -irritrol 2400 valves

    -rain brain 420gls rain sensor

    I did some searching on this site but did not find much on the LX sprays or the controller.

    In your opinions are these quality components?
     
  2. DGI

    DGI LawnSite Member
    from SE Mich
    Posts: 173

    Yep. Quality combo.

    How was the other bid specified? What sort of heads etc.?
     
  3. ProLandscapes

    ProLandscapes LawnSite Member
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    I would jump on either one of those bids also as I wouldn't touch an install like that for the prices they are quoting.

    Josh
     
  4. i_plant_art

    i_plant_art LawnSite Senior Member
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    id say those are quality set ups and darn cheap prices...... just make sure they are not going to run poly pipe on you..... make sure its pvc for a price that cheap it would seem like it poly......
     
  5. Bob E

    Bob E LawnSite Member
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    This person called me at the office when he was at the site to discuss what I wanted to do. The other quote was just mailed to me. I had some questions and I thought this was a nice touch.

    The other quote did not specify models of anything, it just said a "complete hunter system".

    I asked the person I spoke to (The $2,220 bid) if he would use poly or pvc and he said pvc. I had read some posts on this site that educated me enough to know I want pvc.

    Another thing that impressed me was the literature he left with his quotation, a professional looking folder with flyers on each of the products on his quote. The other quote was just a form letter and the hand written quote.

    Since I plan to be home when they install, how can I tell if they are using pvc or poly pipe? I assume by color pvc is white and poly is black right?

    The rain sensor he has quoted is hard wired, I've heard of wireless ones, how much more are the wireless? Are they any better/worse?
     
  6. gvandora

    gvandora LawnSite Member
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    Well pvc pipe comes in 20 ft. lengths for 1" pipe. Poly comes in big rolls. Don't confuse it with the small rolls of smaller diameter black pipe called "funny pipe." That is used for connecting individual heads to the laterals.
     
  7. Mdirrigation

    Mdirrigation LawnSite Silver Member
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    Bob, you make no mention of the experience of either contractor, or what type of backflow if any is used, whether or not a plumber is installing it or if the connection is copper or not. If you are doing the back yard later is the wiring and the controller capable of handling the rest of the lawn. There is also a matter of a warranty, how long is the contractor covering their work . Is there a master valve?

    The biggest problem I see with the quote is the fact that the contractor is using multible manufacturers sprinkler products, Hunter, Irritrol, and weathermatic. We wont do that , we give customers a choice , all hunter, rainbird or toro . A common sales pitch is that "we use the best from each manufacturer" Where actually, it is what the distributor is running a sale on. Others may disagree with me on this , but this has been my experience over 22 years.

    As far as the prices they are low but the area you are in has a bit to do with it, since it seems there will be no grass that makes restoration easier.

    I would suggest 1 or 2 more estimates if possible , the quote that says a complete hunter system is too broad of a statement. Good literature does not make for a good system.
     
  8. farmer_lab

    farmer_lab LawnSite Member
    from KS
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    I agree the price seems to cheap to be a good job. I would also find out how long they have been in business and also the warranty. I do disagree on the statement that taking the best of all of the brands according to what is on sale is wrong. I myself take some of Hunter,and Rainbird with dura for the manifold and also use poly. I have not seen any benifet to taking the cost hit of pvc on any job that I have done or anyone else.
     
  9. Bob E

    Bob E LawnSite Member
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    One has been around for 13 years ($2800)the other for 10 ($2,220). The person I talked to mentioned thet he would install a back flow, but there was not litertaure left on it to know if it is copper or not, nor is it listed in either quote.

    The controller is capable of running the back yard also if we would ever expand. The controller is a 9 zone where there are only 5 zones in the front.

    I'm going to call the guy Monday to get a couple more questions answered.

    -confirm PVC pipe
    -make sure backflow is included and material
    -is there a main shut off valve
    -Warranty

    If he answrs all of these to my satisfaction I guess I'm going to have an irrigated yard soon.

    He said installation should take one day only, and he runs three different crews so it could be done within a week.

    They do one start-up and one winter shut down free with install, after that it is $100 per year for both( $50 each), includes adjustment of heads in spring, I think this is something I should keep going, in't it?
     
  10. Mdirrigation

    Mdirrigation LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,766

    Yes keep the service going
     

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