Kill Bahia grass in pasture

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by 36racin, Dec 1, 2010.

  1. 36racin

    36racin LawnSite Member
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    Recently purchased 80 acres in south Mississippi. I'm looking to enhance the property for wildlife and recreational purposes. As well as plant some more trees(pines and oaks) for future harvesting. What I have is alot pasture land with bahiagrass growing in it that someone was cutting for hay. I'd like to kill the bahia in a 8-10 acre area and other small areas around the property. I want to kill it completely. I have time on my side and know it will probably take more than one spraying to accomplish this. I wish for the native grasses and plants to come back out and take over these areas, What can I spray to kill it?

    Thanks,
    Todd
     
  2. Ric

    Ric LawnSite Fanatic
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    Todd

    I question the idea of killing off 8 to 10 acres tooooo Quickly. You may be opening your land to erosion. It sounds like you want to do the right and let Mother Nature be more natural. While I could easily give to a short list of non select herbicides I feel you may want to contact your state Land Grant university for Upland Natural Area Management guidelines.
     
  3. 36racin

    36racin LawnSite Member
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    Ric,
    Thanks for the concern. We did have a Bologist on the property last week. It was his suggestion to kill the Bahia and let the native grasses and forage come back out. We can and will certainly do this area in pieces. We wanted to plant some trees this year. But can certainly wait. We are not so interested in timber value. More importantly wildlife habitat. We can only do so much with the time we are up on the property. And certainly have a list a mile long of other improvements, equipment, buildings, etc that are also needed.
    While the biologist was there he took a look at an adjoining piece of property that had planted pines added to prior pasture land(bahiagrass) It had little or no browse material or cover material for wildlife. That's why he suggested we kill the bahia if we chose to plant trees. Better yet it would encourage native growth and the wildilfe would use it where they are not currently.

    Thanks,
    Todd
     
  4. Ric

    Ric LawnSite Fanatic
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    Todd

    Fools rush in where wise men fear to tread. Sounds like you want a great Hunting Lease.

    Bahia is simple to kill with Roundup when it is actively growing spring to early fall. but don't buy the Name brand when Generics are so cheap and work just as good. Glyphosate is the active ingredient and can be purchased almost every where. Tractor Supply sells it as BIG PRONTO I believe. But look for and buy Glyphosate. The 41% only takes 88 oz in 44 gallons of water per acre to give a great one time kill.

    Having done some hunting myself, Feed oats will give about 65% germination on burned ground and I find Deer like Oaks better than Rye or Wheat. Of course soybeans and Melons grown wild, also are good forage and won't effect natural area plants.
     
  5. 36racin

    36racin LawnSite Member
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    Ric,
    Thanks. The biologist sent these to me today. To kill Bahia he would recommend

    Aresenal @1% mix or 1 1/2oz per gallon water

    or

    Round UP @ 3-4% mix or 5-6oz per gallon water.

    Does these sound correct? I know the Aresnal is not a cheap chemical. I just want to make sure the roots and all get nuked when I do it. And yes we are trying to set up the property for hunting. But since it's so little we are trying to attract all the deer we can from the surrounding properties.

    I also will be doing the hack and squirt on trees that I wish to kill. Any recommendations on which herbicide to use for that?

    Thanks,
    Todd
     
    Last edited: Dec 1, 2010
  6. Ric

    Ric LawnSite Fanatic
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    Todd

    I recommended 2 oz per gallon or a 1.5% solution of Glyphosate on active growing Bahia and have killed Bahia with even a weaker mixture. You Biologist might be recommending a higher concentration because of the time of year. Your Bahia should be either dormant or going Dormant. In My Humble Opinion it MIGHT be too later this year to get a good kill. In has been many years since the year I lived in Ocean Springs Ms and worked as a fish spotter. So I am not really up on your weather.

    PS Forget Aresnal it is a complete over kill. Last time I used Aresnal it was applied to fresh Stump Cut Exotic trees growing in wet land to allow native re-growth
     
  7. nik

    nik LawnSite Member
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    Arsenal may be a bit much. Though it is SOP for forest applications for reprod.

    Can you get your hands on native grass seed? I would suggest not tilling and direct seeding native grasses or just forage seed. That way you can take advantage of the roots and keep your soil.
     
  8. gregory

    gregory LawnSite Bronze Member
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    couldnt you just have some one come in and sell it for sod?
     
  9. Ric

    Ric LawnSite Fanatic
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    Gregory

    Selling Pasture Grass as Fine sod just won't Work. There are several varieties of Bahia all of which are more Pasture Grade than fine turf. Our Bahia is actually from Argentina because it grows tighter than the Clumping growth style of Coastal Bahia, popular on the Northern Gulf Coast.
     
  10. 420deere

    420deere LawnSite Member
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    Use "Cimmron", it will kill the Bahia and leave most other grasses, read the label first to be sure.

    My .02 worth

    420 deere
     

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