well yes, even you did so, you would eventually go out of business for lack of business right? one job I almost got last year went for 52k, I was 57k everyone was around 55-60 ish . these guys 109k WTF! This happened every time I see a bid opening the sky is the limit! woohoo! so you would think they would go out of business because they don't have any work? Right? But they do. How do they get it? I'm thinking they chose their prices by throwing a hatchet at a dart board to pick a number.