Lack of Respect for Industry?

Discussion in 'Irrigation' started by txirrigation, Aug 1, 2011.

  1. SoCalLandscapeMgmt

    SoCalLandscapeMgmt LawnSite Bronze Member
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    People are generally clueless as to what it costs to run a business. I was having a casual conversation with a newer client the other day about the economy and what things cost and I mentioned that our fuel bill is about $8K a month. His jaw dropped. Then I told him what all our insurance costs per month and that payroll was $35K every two weeks. I think I made an impression.... I think he understands why we have to charge what we charge now. Some people get it, others never will even if you were to hand over your financial statements!
     
  2. greenmonster304

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    This a little bit of a different topic bit related. Who of the other types of contractors have the least respect for irrigation? What I mean is when other trades are working around irrigation system who damages them them the most and doesn't even care. I feel that it is the septic guys who just f__k things up and bury it without marking or telling any one. Like today I go to the job where the cesspool caved in when I was pulling pipe, they filled another old pool and in the process broke a head off the end of a lateral line and buried the pipe 3' down in the sand so the water wouldn't even surface. These guys knew the system was brand new and it wasn't even wired and they just don't care.
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  3. Wet_Boots

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    in one sense, septic guys have free rein to destroy any irrigation, because nothing in a sprinkler system should be touching a septic field
     
  4. greenmonster304

    greenmonster304 LawnSite Gold Member
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    what is the thinking there? just curious. But they sill destroy it even when installing new septic in a new area of the property. Last year they put in some big precast dry wells and left some cut pipes buried heading down in the dirt and spread new soil on top. I had the zone running for about 15 min trying to find the break when i take a step on the new soil and sink to my ass in quick mud. It was perfectly dry on top but 4' of muddy top soil under the surface.
     
  5. Wet_Boots

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    Pipes in a field can be a violation, and who checks anyway. Besides, some fields are large enough to be almost impossible to cover from outside.
     
  6. greenmonster304

    greenmonster304 LawnSite Gold Member
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    I gathered that it might be a violation but what is the theory behind it?
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  7. Wet_Boots

    Wet_Boots LawnSite Fanatic
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    Known toxicity, I imagine. But codes I follow are already assuming all of outdoors is toxic, so what the hey.
     
  8. AI Inc

    AI Inc LawnSite Fanatic
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    Theory is a stuck zone can fill a field to capacity. Its like everything in this country. Out of 300 million Americans , it happened once or twice so we must need regulation.
     
  9. greenmonster304

    greenmonster304 LawnSite Gold Member
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    What about rain? I think septic systems are different here.
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  10. Wet_Boots

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    I've seen codes written that grouped together "sewage and/or lethal substances" (air break only permitted) - so caution around septic fields isn't a big surprise. But try to follow that rule and cover the lawn properly.....
     

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