I found a real deal on a program that works better...... well...for me anyway....than the Punch program I had... for a fraction of the price. I paid forty dollars for Punch and hated it. I couldn't make it work at all. So I took it back and ask on here what should I get. Well Pro Landscape was recommended and I like it a lot and it is still the program I want to get someday. I just can't afford it yet. But in the mean time I need something that will get me by and I think I have found it. NothingButSoftware.com has a Program on sale called Beautiful Land & Garden by Data Becker for just $2.95 Now I just got it yesterday and I have only been playing with it for about twenty minuets and I filled the yard with stuff at random just to see what it would do. Heres a picture of what it can do. The wavy lines on the siding of the house happens when I down size a picture to post here for some reason I don't understand but you should still be able to get an Idea of how well it works for the price. Not all of us can afford to start out with the best programs. I know Pro Landscape is night and day better then this program but I just can't afford it yet. I thought some of you might share that problem and appreciate knowing about this one.