Large Lawn Renovation Need Advice

Discussion in 'Turf Renovation' started by Chattybirds, Jul 22, 2010.

  1. jonthepain

    jonthepain LawnSite Senior Member
    from Raleigh
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  2. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
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    That is true with weeds, like quackgrass, however, even with that it is less work and expense to hit, whatever does regrow.

    If the ground is, lousy, compacted, or whatever, there is no substitute for cultivation.
     
  3. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
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    Rolling loose soil causes compaction. Rolling wet soil is even worse. level the ground with a drag of some sort when the soil is dry, so as not to compact it with the tractor, so much. Plant the seed, then soak it down.

    If you can't irrigate all 3 acres, irrigate a section that you can keep moist. Don't spread yourself too thin. Pick an area, and keep it perfectly moist, all the time, until it is old enough to dry up a bit. It is better to have 1/2 acre of good turf, than 3 acres of dusty weeds. Whatever lawn goes into winter well adjusted and stablished will be fine next spring.
     
  4. Turboguy

    Turboguy LawnSite Bronze Member
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    You asked the price of hydro seeding. There is no set rule and prices can vary a lot. Just to give you some idea my price this year per acre to hydroseed is $ 2250.00 an acre on one acre or more. It might be possible to find someone cheaper but I doubt it would be much less than $ 1750 an acre or someone might charge more but probably if they were much over $ 3000.00 an acre I would keep looking.

    Another option for you might be to rent a hydroseeder. We rent ours for $ 175.00 a day and even if you had to pay a bit more you could go that route and probably do it for a few thousand.
     
  5. Cloud9Landscapes

    Cloud9Landscapes LawnSite Senior Member
    from Ca
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    This is why we aerate and spread 50 lbs of gypsum/sqf. the year after seeding/sodding. IMO you should till, run the harley rake, use the drag mats and the roll with a heavy roller.
     
  6. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
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    This may be fine in some soils, that are sandier than, they are clayey...

    Why is rolling so important, after dragging? that you're willing to work for years, relieving compaction?
     
  7. jonthepain

    jonthepain LawnSite Senior Member
    from Raleigh
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    Hey TB, would you consider coming down to Raleigh? My partner just finished logging 8 acres and we are trying to put together 2 soccer and 2 Lacrosse fields.

    Send me a pm if you are interested.

    Thanks!
    jon
     
  8. Cloud9Landscapes

    Cloud9Landscapes LawnSite Senior Member
    from Ca
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    Dragging makes it mostly flat and rolling compresses the lawn so it does not settle un-evenly Then you can go back after rolling and rake in the low spots.
     
  9. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
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    Water saturation, does a more thorough, and even job of that. Then when it dries it is full of air, and structure forms during that process. Superficial raking with a broom rake may or may not be desirable.
     
  10. Turboguy

    Turboguy LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Thanks for the offer Jon, If it is after it's too cold to seed here I might think about it. Some warmer weather might be nice. There is an IBM facility somehere near Raleigh that I did some of the seeding on ages ago. I have hydroseeded a lot of places including the Virgin Islands and even Baku in Azerbaijan which is on the Caspian Sea south of Russia. You are probably better off finding someone local though. The Hydro Seeding Association has a list of local contractors at www.HydroSeedingExperts.com if you need someone to seed it otherwise if your timetable is Nov or Dec I might think about a few days in nicer weather. Thanks again.
     

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