Laser Grading

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment & Pavement' started by ASCHAL45, Nov 10, 2007.

  1. ASCHAL45

    ASCHAL45 LawnSite Member
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    Does anyone offer laser grading? I am looking into it myself because of all the large commercial sites being built in my town and concrete isnt cheap. If any one offers this let me know how it is working I am looking at an AGl automatic machine control unit for a skid steer? Im not sure if i want to go with a grader blade or a box blade yet.
     
  2. AWJ Services

    AWJ Services LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Ga
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    They work well on loose soil and gravel.
    Hard clay will give it fits.

    Find a full service dealer and have them let you demo a machine with it on there first.
    You need too buy a dual grade extended range laser as well.
    Very expensive setup.
     
  3. bobcat_ron

    bobcat_ron LawnSite Fanatic
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    The cheap way out is welding a steel rod to the back side of the bucket and putting a laser receiver on it, but if it's pure precision, grader attachments are the way to go.
     
  4. AWJ Services

    AWJ Services LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Ga
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    That is manual laser grading.
    He is talking about automatic grading were the laser controls the hydraulics.
     
  5. bobcat_ron

    bobcat_ron LawnSite Fanatic
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    That's the REALLY expensive way!
     
  6. AWJ Services

    AWJ Services LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Ga
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    Around 15K+ .
     
  7. ASCHAL45

    ASCHAL45 LawnSite Member
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    What are ppl charging a square foot on laser grading if you dont mind me asking?
     
  8. ksss

    ksss LawnSite Fanatic
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    I have everything bought to get started minus the laser grader. Sounds stupid, but I bought the dual plane laser (Topcon) I now have VTS tracks and a new vibratory roller. I have researched it to death. I believe the box blade is the best set up for concrete grade type laser grading. The blade attachments always leave a tail of material. I think the box blade is more clean and compact. The system I am planning on buying is made by Southern Laser at laserleveling.com It is about 18K for everything. I had ordered one this Spring but put it on hold when I found out I had to be gone for half the Summer. I would like to wait until ConExpo as they usually run a special during the show.
     
  9. AWJ Services

    AWJ Services LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Ga
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    I agree.

    You will have a hard time selling it for much more than what they are already using.
    It takes alot of education too sell it in an application that it is not being used in.
    I would start selling the service at the same rate as people without it.
    I know this sounds odd but you should be able too do the job better and faster with no helper than somone with a laser and reciever manually do it.
    Once the contractors start seeing the savings in concrete from your superior quality you will be busy.
    Then you can adjust your rate based on operating expenses.

    This is all depends on the going rate as well.
     
  10. ksss

    ksss LawnSite Fanatic
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    I have talked to several large companies that do the large box buildings such as Super Walmarts and CostCo's. It varies from 25 cents to 75 cents a square foot. Thats good money on a 50,000 square foot building. I agree that you'll have to come in at the same going rate. The speed at which you can get the job done and the accuracy, one would be plenty busy. I have also considered offering some type of well written garrentee that the grade/concrete will be within a certain percent of what the pour calls for. I would want to see what the system is capable of but if it is as accurate as what they say I think it would help secure jobs.
     

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