Late New Sales

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by ted putnam, Jan 24, 2008.

  1. ted putnam

    ted putnam LawnSite Platinum Member
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    I was wondering what you guys in the Northeast and midwest use for post crabgrass control blanket apps on your late new sales without breaking the bank?
     
  2. Victor

    Victor LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Dimension Ted
     
  3. ted putnam

    ted putnam LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Victor,
    I was told Dimension only worked on crabgrass up to the 5 leaf stage. It works beyond that?
     
  4. ted putnam

    ted putnam LawnSite Platinum Member
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    The reason I'm asking is because we were told at ou turfgrass conference that we will be losing MSMA probably in the next 18 months. I don't think you guys deal with Dallisgrass(paspalum) but we do in a big way. As it is we will be blowing holes in peoples lawns with R-UP just to get rid of that. Quinclorac is fine for spot treatment of crabgrass but not very cost effective for blanket apps.
     
  5. FdLLawnMan

    FdLLawnMan LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Ted
    You guys must have serious problems with grassy weeds. I haven't put down any pre-emergent on my lawn in the past 10 years and normally I only put down dimension on about 10% of my customers, mostly along walks and driveways. I have used Quinclorac, under the Drive name and last year I used Q4 with success on the few lawns that crabgrass popped on, but only as a spot spray. You are correct that either one of them is expensive for a blanket app. I believe Dimension only works up to the second or third tiller stage. Maybe you could explain to the late customers that if you have to spray for a grassy weed you can, but it will cost extra. Next year they won't procrastinate.
    Good luck in finding something that will work for you.
     
  6. LIBERTYLANDSCAPING

    LIBERTYLANDSCAPING LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Indiana
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    That's what I do. I don't know anyone who pics up late customers & doesn't charge acordingly to take care of their crabgrass w/ chemicals that are that costly & out of the normal program. Quinclorac is off patent, and last year I used Armor Tech Quinpro (quincorac) cost me $55/Acre, instead of $79 for drive.
     
  7. ted putnam

    ted putnam LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Thanks Liberty and Fd,
    We do have a serious problem with them. All kinds and most of them are perennials, not annuals so the pre-emergence herbicides do not work, People around here are in for a rude awakening in about 18months. I really only have to deal with it on the new sales. One more question. Have you found that the Drive (Quinclorac) works in one shot or does it take 2-3 sprayings?
     
  8. FdLLawnMan

    FdLLawnMan LawnSite Bronze Member
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    For me it works with one shot. You just have to make sure that you use Methylated Seed Oil with it. Then it works great.
     
  9. LIBERTYLANDSCAPING

    LIBERTYLANDSCAPING LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Indiana
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    Ditto, IF you use as directed with methalated seed oil it works great. Any complaints I have heard on it not being effective were because "lesco spreader/sticker" were used.
     
  10. Rayholio

    Rayholio LawnSite Bronze Member
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    yeah.. I'm just a little north of ted, and Drive works great!
     

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