first off- i dont want anybody to get offended by what i am about to say, and also i know i am the last person who should be talking about this. however- we all talk about cheap customers, and scrubs, and all these other financial challenges, provided by co-workers, and customers. whacky customers too. why is it that we as LCO's attract this kind of treatment? now granted i dont know anything about being a lawyer or doctor, etc. but do they really have to worry about a scrub? or cheap customers? why is it that the green industry in general attracts so many people? its hard to put what i am thinking into so few words. but the other day i was doing some banking and i saw a station wagon with a ladder and grass gobler on the top, and a cheapo trailer on the back with a lesco mower. i saw this rig once before and i remember it as being an older guy. why is it that people who were once IBM'ers or phone company guys, you name it- they retire and go to work cutting lawns? they have a degree in whatever they have a degree in- those of us that have degrees, we have it in god knows what. why is it that we look for high school dropouts and illegal aliens to work for us? this is not a recent problem- it is a problem that has been around for many years now. when we go to work for a doctor or lawyer who goes and charges lets say $600 per hour- cheap- and we do some work and want lets say a rate of $85 per hour to trim hedges, and we are high? how come younger guys nowadays want to get into cutting grass when they are 13 or 14... 15, etc. what i am trying to say here is- why is it that when somebody wants to become a doctor they must go through many years of schooling. yet when somebody wants to open an LCO all they have to do is start talking with people. as far as equipment and liscencing etc goes both proffesions require it. i ask about the schooling. i am going for a degree in turf. so it would only seem logical for me to work on lawns. now somebody who has a degree in business management why wouldnt they go to work for a large company doing something? this is what i dont understand. also- i have noticed that the quality of people who do landscaping- a good deal are not um, how to put this nicely- couthe? we have racists, antisemites, bigots, you name it. i- as some of you know am jewish. i have had other LCO's state right in front of me knowing that i am jewish that some of their largest accounts are dirty jews. others reffer to black people as the "N" word. we all know the names used by many to reffer to hispanic people. we go after work to cheap bars and get drunk. would a doctor do that on a regular basis? how many of us eat food that you would never know what it was before it was a big lump of blue? why cant we ask for $500 per hour? why is it that we must settle for however much per hour and be surviving. when a doctor or lawyer can charge however much they want and be thriving and living in massive homes? how many of us will ever own a home like Eric does just by doing landscaping? i dont understand it? i can go on and on and on here- but i would like some answers. we talk about scrubs on here all the time- but what is it that attracts them?