Lawn renovation: Too late in the fall?

Discussion in 'Turf Renovation' started by bperl, Sep 13, 2011.

  1. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
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    My favorite test would be bare spots with dead clippings instead of dirt and tossing seed into those spots with no help or add compost... :)
     
  2. RigglePLC

    RigglePLC LawnSite Fanatic
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    Be right back.
     
  3. RigglePLC

    RigglePLC LawnSite Fanatic
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    You got it Mike. I tried 1/2 ounce seed on one sqft of low-quality turf and covering it with one pound of screened topsoil. It was on October 13, 2011 and temp was 65. Rain and cooler weather expected in the next 7 days.
    I calculated the seed was about 30 pounds per thousand sqft.
    I calculated the soil layer at about .16 of an inch. (about 1000 pounds per thousand sqft.) If a cubic yard weighs 3000 pounds that is about a third of a yard per 1000 sqft.

    I do not normally topdress--no experience here.

    And Smallaxe, I did try covering seed with grass clippings, plus fert, plus raked-in. Results were good, but double fertilizer, and 4 times the usual amount of seed, and rake-in, resulted in the best and thickest grass. Photos coming soon.
     
  4. MikeInMKE

    MikeInMKE LawnSite Member
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    Riggle,

    Appreciated! Hoping it might approach the results of a slit-seeder without the headaches of a slit-seeder.
     
  5. bperl

    bperl LawnSite Member
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    Thanks for your tests Riggle.
    On the similar note, I have following questions:
    1) Since the grass is already about 2-3 inches tall, when should I do my first lawn mowing of this new seeded lawn.
    2) Should I leave the grass clippings or should I bag them. Reasons?
     
  6. dboyd351

    dboyd351 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I've got the same question as bperl and would also like to know whether to rake up the straw I put down to cover the seed. I planted the seed about 3 weeks ago and the grass is now 3-4 inches tall - a mix of fescue and rye.
     
  7. Smallaxe

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    It depends on how much straw you put down... many times it does more damage to remove the straw then it does to let it decay and supply the ground with soil building OM... but usually it it placed poorly and there are large areas that are just dead zones becuz the clumps of straw only allow the growing of weeds...
     
  8. dboyd351

    dboyd351 LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Thanks Smallaxe.
    That's about what I figured, so I'm mostly planning to leave it except the areas where the grass isn't growing thru because it is a little thick.
     
  9. bperl

    bperl LawnSite Member
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    Any idea about when the first mowing should be done?
    Also, should I leave the grass clippings or should I bag them?
     
  10. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
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    For me it is mow when I'm not sucking seed or dirt and the ground is relatively dry and stable... Newly seeded lawn on bare ground, can grow as long as nit doesn't flop over on its neighbor and start the suffocation process, then mowed high when the ground is solid... Sometims use a pushmower at the beginning...

    Almost always leaves clippngs for mulching the ground, and holding down the soil...
     

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