Lawn renovation

Discussion in 'Landscape Architecture and Design' started by john_incircuit, Sep 8, 2005.

  1. john_incircuit

    john_incircuit LawnSite Senior Member
    from NC
    Posts: 309

    We primarily cut grass and do also aerating. Have a new customer, yard suffered a lot when an addition was put on his house. There are some major tire tracks, contractor planted wrong grass, yard plus has tons of weeds – it just looks bad. Yard is approx 75 x 75 feet.

    Tried to outsource this one, but can’t find one with a Harley rake that has time, so I may have to do it.

    From reading a number of posts, I figure this is the right sequence:

    - Kill grass
    - Roto till
    - Add compost
    - Roto till again
    - Finish rake
    - Slit seed

    I have three questions:

    -- Once the grass is sprayed (RoundUP) and dead, is it OK to just roto till it under?

    -- Can I put an inch or two of compost on the lawn before roto tilling and just roto till the lawn and mix in the compost at the same time?

    -- Finish raking. How “dense” should the soil be to be ready for seeding? Roto tilling makes it very fluffy, should I run the drum over it before seeding?

    Thanks for the help --- John
  2. Turf Troll

    Turf Troll LawnSite Member
    Posts: 227

    kill weeds
    add compost
    till 2 inches compost in two or three inchs
    spread seed
    pull mat behind zero turn
    spread penn mulch/ whatever you use
  3. Killswitch

    Killswitch LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 438

    Roto tillers?

    Comon guys.....what are we reseeding a motocross course?

    Unless you have some serious grading and leveling to do I wouldnt roto till anything.

    Round it up. Wait three days. Roundup doesnt have much of a half life and does not tie up in the soil.

    Aerate the hell out of it, slit seed the hell out of it using a criss cross pattern, broadcast some perenial rye, add some starter fert after you aerate and water it heavily the first time, then twice or three times a day lightly.

    Ive begun the seeding process many times even before all the grass was dying.

    Roto tilling?

  4. start2finish

    start2finish LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 497

    another option is to rip up the ground with a scarifier teeth the harley rake (after killing the existing grass of course) then seed and add fert and such based on a soil test. Then apply your favorite covering (straw, pennmulch etc.)
    about a 750- 1000 dollar job here.
  5. Turf Troll

    Turf Troll LawnSite Member
    Posts: 227

    That is Penn State "using composts to Improve turf performance" break down on incorperating more than 1/4 inch of mushroom compost into the soil profile. 1/4 inch the double aeration.

    I would do what ever the client feels is the value option for them. I try to give options on seed, mulch other items, a bunch of digging or a little so they have price options , hopefully I have a profit on what level of work they desire and there is no reason why they shouldn't pick a option.
  6. john_incircuit

    john_incircuit LawnSite Senior Member
    from NC
    Posts: 309

    Thanks for the help!

    Yes, we usually give the client a couple of options to select from, together with a somewhat detailed quote.

    In my experience, customers don't like just to see a lump sum.


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