I've been down at the local dealer and I'm trying to figure out what ztr to buy. He's got a Lazer HP 23hp 52" for 7400, Lazer Z 23hp 60" 7000 and a Lazer Z 20hp 52" for 6400. I'm guessing the 20hp is just not enough(let me know what you think. As far as the other 2, I've been leaning on the HP. Seems like an ok price, and it'll be good size for my trailer. Are these good prices? Also another dealer in town has got a Lazer Z 27hp 52" for 8400. Seems a bit high to me. Also do you guys find that you can talk the prices down or are they pretty much set? thanks!