leaves killed grass

Discussion in 'Turf Renovation' started by nightshutter, Mar 20, 2011.

  1. nightshutter

    nightshutter LawnSite Senior Member
    from UT
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    Leaves stayed on grass all winter. cleaned them up a week ago. grass is dead underneath. One of the spots might come back once it gets air. maybe.

    Sod was put down last year. not me. Now my solution to save this lady money would be aerate and over seed. she wants sod but doesn't want to spend the money again. I told her the seed would work as an alternative to spending a bunch of money. total about 500 sq ft. Any suggestions that would make it come back real good. besides tear out and replace.
     
  2. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
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    That is why I have a policy: "Leaves are never allowed to stay on the ground for more than 2 weeks at a time in the fall. And the turf must never go under snow with leaves on it."

    How bad is it, and why do the aerator? Aeration is NOT the best tool for a seed bed for grass... Slit seed or broadcast and cover with compost for better germination and a healthier start... Do Not Pre-M, until you actually have lawn... Lawn that can survive have its roots stifled...
     
  3. nightshutter

    nightshutter LawnSite Senior Member
    from UT
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    Not sure why she waited to have them cleaned up but now she's paying for it. its pretty bad. one spot wont come back, the other might with some sun. pretty yellow. i figured aerate and seed because that works in the fall the thicken up the grass. I gave some thought to seed and mushroom compost.
     
  4. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
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    If you don't have soil compaction, slit seeding will thicken up the turf even better... I would toss seed on the yellow stuff too... It couldn't hurt... :)
     
  5. Patriot Services

    Patriot Services LawnSite Fanatic
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    I agree against the aeration, putting seed 3" down a hole is just wasting. Topdress with 50/50 compost and topsoil. 1" should be fine as the soil from the sod is usually good quality. 500 ft isn't much, it sounds like it would be about same price either way.
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  6. nightshutter

    nightshutter LawnSite Senior Member
    from UT
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    thanks for the tips. So if you both disagree with aeration, Why is the thing with most people to aerate and overseed in the fall?
     
  7. RigglePLC

    RigglePLC LawnSite Fanatic
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    An aerator is not a slit-seeding machine. It punches holes.
     
  8. Patriot Services

    Patriot Services LawnSite Fanatic
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    They should be done seperately.
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  9. nightshutter

    nightshutter LawnSite Senior Member
    from UT
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    I know that. Just wasn't sure why one is recommened over the other. I know what they both do, just not sure if one is more beneficial over the other. Some people aerate and over seed some slit seed.
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  10. Patriot Services

    Patriot Services LawnSite Fanatic
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    Seeing as how the sod was only a few months old I don't think soil compaction is an issue. Your goal is to regrow grass, the more seed at the proper level as opposed to grouped at the bottom of a hole the denser your stand of turf will be. You don't want to have to do multiple reseedings to fill in the thin spots.
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