LED prices

Discussion in 'Christmas Trees & Seasonal' started by evergreenedmond, Oct 3, 2008.

  1. evergreenedmond

    evergreenedmond LawnSite Senior Member
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    I have been buying my Christmas lights from local wholesalers & figured I would look at some of the online places. I checked both litesource.com and holidaybrightlights.com & was surprised that their prices were higher than what I am paying at my local places. Does anybody know of any quality national distributors? I am currently paying around $10.00 for G12 70 count & low teens for M5 70 count. Is this as good as it gets?
     
  2. David Gretzmier

    David Gretzmier LawnSite Gold Member
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    Led's are not cheap, and there is a huge difference in quality out there. The "Rectified" sets are the ones I like best, and they are expensive. My customers tend to like the look of incandescent as opposed to LED, and the cost is easier on them too. Hotrod does a ton of LED stuff, he would know best.
     
  3. hotrod1965

    hotrod1965 LawnSite Senior Member
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    Dave is right, you need to know if your lights are rectified or not. It sounds like your G12 are not and your M5's might be. G12 and M5 should cost the same, they are the same light just a different lens shape.
     
  4. evergreenedmond

    evergreenedmond LawnSite Senior Member
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    This is our first year pushing the LED's & thise prices are for non rectified. I've already purchased 25 cases each of red, cool white & green. Should I be worried?
     
  5. David Gretzmier

    David Gretzmier LawnSite Gold Member
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    non rectified sets tend to have a vibration to them, kind of like neon. some folks can see it, some can't. some also claim rectified sets are brighter, but I cannot tell the difference. I've heard rectified sets last longer, but I'm not sure. you can always plug in a sample set to show the customer. good luck- dave g
     
  6. hotrod1965

    hotrod1965 LawnSite Senior Member
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    If the wind blows them in trees and such you will see the flickering. If you bought higher end half wave sets it is not as bad, you really tell in the whites more than the colors..

    the rectified sets actually last half as long. Non-rectified sets use AC and are actually turning on and off really fast (think sin wave). Recified sets convert the AC to DC which takes the flicker out and can make the sets brighter (depends on manufacturer). Because the rectified sets are now on twice as much, they last half as long. So they are rated at 50K hours instead of 100K hours. The wire will still die before 50K hours.
     
  7. DUSTYCEDAR

    DUSTYCEDAR LawnSite Fanatic
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    HOW many sets can go end to end?
     
  8. hotrod1965

    hotrod1965 LawnSite Senior Member
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    The new UL guide lines say 1.75 amps end to end. So it depends on what the set is for how many can be hooked end to end. But usually it's around 40 sets for the standard LED sets.
     
  9. David Gretzmier

    David Gretzmier LawnSite Gold Member
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    egads. 40 sets, at, let's say, 50 feet per set, that would be 2000 feet through 22 guage wire. I cannot imagine electricity traveling that far.

    But then, we did a 600 or so feet c-9 job with LED's last year, and used the ceramic coated version retro-fit bulbs, and plugged in every 140 feet or so on a 16 guage cord, all the way to the end of the building. still, was only 8 amps or so, and the voltage was about 108 at the end of 600 feet. Bulbs are kinda dim though, I believe they only have single LEDs. rehung it this year, and replaced 10 bulbs at the install. Less replacement than incandescent at this point, but given the price for bulbs, about 6 times the cost for normal replacement.
     
  10. hotrod1965

    hotrod1965 LawnSite Senior Member
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    I wish the ceramic coated came in a 5 LED version. I think they have better appeal than the facetted bulbs. Most C9's have a 1 year warranty on them, so you should be able to get credit for the ones that fail.

    They say you can run a 500 foot run on C9 LED's. I don't have any that are than long, but the math checks out.
     

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