Listed Products and the Building Authority

Discussion in 'Landscape Lighting' started by JoeyD, Apr 15, 2009.

  1. JoeyD

    JoeyD LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,933

    A situation arrose yesterday that forced us to call our local building authority and ask some questions. In our conversation some interesting discovieries came about. One had to do with the installation of unlisted products. The inspector told us that if they inspect a Permited project and find that unlisted products (NRTL) were installed that the project would be subject to being flagged. Meaning that they would not allow for pass of final inspection until NRTL Listed products were installed. He also mentioned that should someone contact them regarding an unpermited job, which most in our industry are, and he came out and found unlisted products on the project that he would also red tag that job, forcing the homeowners to rip those products out before the home could ever be resold again. :nono:


    So this led us to thinking. With so many imported and unlisted products being sold right now how many people realize they may not only be jeapordizing their name but may also be jeapordizing the future resale of their clients home? How many architects are unknowingly specifying unlisted products on projects due to a sales pitch, not knowing that job may be forced to be pulled out and replaced at the homeowners expense?

    It also lead us to think how many of you are losing jobs to competiton who are coming in selling unlisted products as being just as good as your listed products? Now that we know what to do we felt it was worthwhile to pass along that according to our local building inspector you have the right to call in and notify them to the use and installation of unlisted products being installed. They would then go out and flag that project allowing you to finally fight back against these imported and unlisted fixtures and transformers. :clapping:
     
    Last edited: Apr 15, 2009
  2. jshimmin

    jshimmin LawnSite Member
    Posts: 99

    Based on the latest manufactures list below, who has listed fixtures?

    Advantage Lightsource
    Altec Lighting
    Ark Lighting
    Arroyo
    Artscape
    Atom Lighting
    Attraction
    Auroralight
    Beachside
    BK
    BQL
    Bronzelite
    CAST
    Corona
    Coppermoon
    Dabmar
    Delta light
    DG Lights
    Dreamscape Lighting
    Eclipse
    Encore Lighting
    Evening Star
    Escort
    Froglights
    Focus
    F/X
    Garden Light
    Greenlee
    Hanover
    Heritage Lightworks
    Hevi-Lite
    Hinkley
    Hadco
    HK
    Hunza
    Hydrel
    Idaho Wood
    In-Lite
    Integral
    Intense
    Intermatic
    Johnson Art Studio
    Kerr
    Kim
    Kichler
    LightCraft
    Lion Lighting
    Lubo Lighting
    Luma Lighting
    Lumascape
    Lumiere
    Llumitech
    Martini
    Megabay
    Night Orbs
    Nightscaping
    Night Scenes
    OASE
    Pinnacle Lights
    RSL
    RAB
    Ruud
    Safety Volt (Transformers)
    Sea Gull Lighting
    Stone Manor Lighting
    Sundown Designs
    SPJ
    Tahoe Lighting
    TechLight
    Terradek
    TRAA
    Universal Lighting Systems
    Unique
    Vista
    Vision3
    W.A.C.
    Winnona
     
  3. JoeyD

    JoeyD LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,933

    Advantage Lightsource
    Altec Lighting
    Ark Lighting
    Arroyo
    Artscape
    Atom Lighting
    Attraction
    Auroralight
    Beachside
    BK
    BQL
    Bronzelite
    CAST
    Corona
    Coppermoon
    Dabmar
    Delta light
    DG Lights
    Dreamscape Lighting
    Eclipse
    Encore Lighting
    Evening Star
    Escort
    Froglights
    Focus
    F/X
    Garden Light
    Greenlee
    Hanover
    Heritage Lightworks
    Hevi-Lite
    Hinkley
    Hadco
    HK
    Hunza
    Hydrel
    Idaho Wood
    In-Lite
    Integral
    Intense
    Intermatic
    Johnson Art Studio
    Kerr
    Kim
    Kichler
    LightCraft
    Lion Lighting
    Lubo Lighting
    Luma Lighting
    Lumascape
    Lumiere
    Llumitech
    Martini
    Megabay
    Night Orbs
    Nightscaping
    Night Scenes
    OASE
    Pinnacle Lights
    RSL
    RAB
    Ruud
    Safety Volt (Transformers)
    Sea Gull Lighting
    Stone Manor Lighting
    Sundown Designs
    SPJ
    Tahoe Lighting
    TechLight
    Terradek
    TRAA
    Universal Lighting Systems
    Unique Lighting Systems - LISTED w/ ETL
    Vista
    Vision3
    W.A.C.
    Winnona

    I know we do.....as do a lot of others on this list. Most the importers were not listed on that list.
     
  4. INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting

    INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting LawnSite Platinum Member
    Posts: 4,102

    Listings are and have always been critical here in Ontario and Canada...

    If you are being paid to install an electrical product it must be appropriately listed for its intended use (this is an often overlooked factor in listings! hence, a transformer that carries a listing for interior applications cannot be used to power a outdoor lighting system) Here we only accept CSA, ULc and cETL listings. Not sure if ARL will ever step up to the Canadian Listings standards or not.

    Interestingly enough, a distributor is not prohibited from selling unlisted product! It is only an offense to install it. Strange.
     
  5. steveparrott

    steveparrott Sponsor
    Posts: 1,189

    Advantage Lightsource
    Altec Lighting
    Ark Lighting
    Arroyo
    Artscape
    Atom Lighting
    Attraction
    Auroralight
    Beachside
    BK
    BQL
    Bronzelite
    CAST - all products UL listed
    Corona
    Coppermoon
    Dabmar
    Delta light
    DG Lights
    Dreamscape Lighting
    Eclipse
    Encore Lighting
    Evening Star
    Escort
    Froglights
    Focus
    F/X
    Garden Light
    Greenlee
    Hanover
    Heritage Lightworks
    Hevi-Lite
    Hinkley
    Hadco
    HK
    Hunza
    Hydrel
    Idaho Wood
    In-Lite
    Integral
    Intense
    Intermatic
    Johnson Art Studio
    Kerr
    Kim
    Kichler
    LightCraft
    Lion Lighting
    Lubo Lighting
    Luma Lighting
    Lumascape
    Lumiere
    Llumitech
    Martini
    Megabay
    Night Orbs
    Nightscaping
    Night Scenes
    OASE
    Pinnacle Lights
    RSL
    RAB
    Ruud
    Safety Volt (Transformers)
    Sea Gull Lighting
    Stone Manor Lighting
    Sundown Designs
    SPJ
    Tahoe Lighting
    TechLight
    Terradek
    TRAA
    Universal Lighting Systems
    Unique Lighting Systems - LISTED w/ ETL
    Vista
    Vision3
    W.A.C.
    Winnona
     
  6. S&MLL

    S&MLL LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 751

    Hey how come Malibu isn't on that list?

    Thats all I install
     
  7. INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting

    INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting LawnSite Platinum Member
    Posts: 4,102

    That list was gleaned from the thread "Manufacturers Compendium" which I started over a year ago. It was intended to list all known manufacturers of Pro-Grade LV lighting components. Malibu is not it for obvious reasons!
     

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