looking for ideas

Discussion in 'Landscape Lighting' started by Mark B, Aug 7, 2008.

  1. Mark B

    Mark B LawnSite Bronze Member
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    WOW I finally posted a picture. Yippie...

    Ok so here is a house I looked at today. I would like some ideas on uplighting the 4 post on the middle deck. I can get a wire to each post. Also i'm thinking abut lighting the upper deck from the gutters. The only thing i'm worried about is that the roof would be to close to the upper deck, so the light would be to much/strong to be able to enjoy.

    It would be nice IF all the post were lined up so I could use those funky lights where the go up and down.

    I would also like to think about putting some downlights under the post to light up the ground level and pool area.

    I can't do anything with the lower level cause concrete is already there. I'm going to light the palms, and the retaining wall. This would be my first time lighting from gutters and stuff.

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  2. Mark B

    Mark B LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Talking about getting no input.
     
  3. NightScenes

    NightScenes LawnSite Silver Member
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    I would suggest looking more into down lighting on this project.
     
  4. Mark B

    Mark B LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Ok can you go into some more detail? Instead of trying to light up the post, light up the bottom post. I don't think I can get a wire to light up the middle post from the top.
     
  5. NightScenes

    NightScenes LawnSite Silver Member
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    You can get wire anywhere you want really. I3 Planters has some track in many different colors that allow you to hide your wires very well. You might consider using the Kichler 15093WHT MR16 down light or the Unique Comet. Use a frosted lens and at least a 36% beam to give good coverage on the deck and lower area. I would even use down lighting under the soffets on the upper section.
     
  6. David Gretzmier

    David Gretzmier LawnSite Gold Member
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    I like paul's suggestion. I have just begun using wire channel to get wires to places on structure that I can't pull wires through walls. I also have to have a master electrician weiither do it or sign off on it, as the code in arkansas seems to indicate electricians should be the only ones putting "non signal" electricity in or on structure.

    Check at your local Lowes, they have that channel trim for around a buck a foot and it comes in 5 foot strips. use speaker wire or solid stranded wire when touching structure, as the insulation on standard low voltage is rated to 60C not code rated to 90C.

    James can probably elaborate more on this.
     
  7. Mark B

    Mark B LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I have seen the channel you are talking about. I just have never thought about using it for LVL. I will have to give this some thought. Thanks.
     
  8. Chris J

    Chris J LawnSite Silver Member
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    If your going to go through the trouble of using different wire and such to comply with NEC, then you probably need to consider the fill charts as well. There are limits to the amount of wire you can put in conduit, and I don't think this "channel" stuff is even acceptable (or not in the smaller increments anyway). The point is, if you're going to be NEC driven, that's a good thing. Just make sure you're doing it all within code. Doing the wire by code, but then putting it into an unacceptable conduit will just defeat your purpose.
     
  9. Pro-Scapes

    Pro-Scapes LawnSite Platinum Member
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    need better pics from up close to determine what I would do. I sould definatly try to put some lightolier 2000lvr's in the sofit (ask your electrician) with slotted trims. You would be hard pressed to get some glare of this with thoes.

    deck lights on the inside of the upper rails and middle level rails. Are there already recessed lights in the ceiling of that middle deck ?

    This is definatly one to see at night then fill in the blanks on it.
     
  10. Mark B

    Mark B LawnSite Bronze Member
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    There is some recessed lighting on the middle deck already. AS far as deck lighting would be nice. But the rails are skinny metal rails. Even with the channel I don't think there would be away to pull that off.

    AS far as down lighting I think I could get some lights on the upper level point down. Then I could use the gutters for the upper level. The bad part is on the ground level the post stop about 4' above the ground. They go into like a rock colunm. I will try to get a closer picture.
     

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