looking for input on this truck

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment & Pavement' started by NEUSWEDE, Aug 23, 2013.

  1. NEUSWEDE

    NEUSWEDE LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Maine
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  2. AWJ Services

    AWJ Services LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Ga
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    A C7 Cat engine would not be what I would want in that truck and at 335 horse it would be maxed.
     
  3. Krafty

    Krafty LawnSite Senior Member
    Male, from St. Louis MO
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    I have had no experience with the c-7 but have heard many rumors that it is a 200k engine at best. Does seem to be a little light on the hp as well.

    Also is that the original bed on that truck? Something looks a little off on it like possibly it is a converted road tractor.
     
  4. Dually00-00

    Dually00-00 LawnSite Member
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    Air ride suspension is not so great for a dump truck, like someone else said probably a converted road tractor. Walking beam suspension is good for a dump or dirt truck. The 8ll that it has is a perfect trans for a dump.
     
  5. AWJ Services

    AWJ Services LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Ga
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    The C7 is a med duty engine. It's service life is rated for a med duty application so if used in a heavy duty application it will have a shortened life span.
     
  6. ksss

    ksss LawnSite Fanatic
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    I would not consider that truck for your purpose. Air ride as stated is not a good idea for off road applications, although the Pete 4 bag is better than the KW 8 bag off road, still not a great suspension for this application. I had a 4 bag air in a 378 Pete pulling a side dump. I don't like the short bed. Pulling a 160 with a tag trailer is a load. I would go with a 16' bed to max your payload on the truck and also to have a longer more stable towing platform. Although you guys on the East Coast can get by with less hp than we can, I would opt for more power. Your 160 likely weighs around 37K and your trailer about 10K, if you where to pull that kind of weight with that engine, I would want a lot gears. Although the 8LL is a good dump truck tranny off road, with this application of dump trucking and heavy over the road pulling I would not consider it.

    I would look for a heavier spec truck, with a longer bed but that's based on my Out West experience which may not be completely applicable to you guys Out East.
     
  7. NEUSWEDE

    NEUSWEDE LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Maine
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    Thanks for the input you guys reaffirmed what I was thinking. I have been tyrying to find a 400+hp tandem axel dump that isn't crazy expensive but in the northeast very hard to do.

    Thanks
     
  8. stuvecorp

    stuvecorp LawnSite Fanatic
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    I don't think that truck is so bad and it seems about right for the money? The C7 in a tandem wouldn't be my ideal choice. I don't have a problem with the length, it would be very maneuverable. I would like a heavier front.

    First place I worked had a Pete quad that was 300 horse with a 8LL and it seemed fine but realize that was a few years ago now...
     
  9. CLP

    CLP LawnSite Member
    from Maine
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    Just my 2 cents, horse power isn't everything. It is gearing that gets you around the job site. I've found that for me a tandem is the right size. I can get around on tight sites but haul enough to make worth hauling. If I need a lot hauled, I find it's cheaper to hire it. That being said, my truck now is tandem, geared low and 475 hp.
     
  10. toomuchtime

    toomuchtime LawnSite Senior Member
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    I had a F650 bobtail dump with the c7 behind a allison 6 speed. Was a good little truck to tow around my 14K tag trailer with skid steer but that was about the the capacity. what you are asking the c7 to tow and haul would be to much unless you dont mind going 25-35 up any type of incline with the flashers on.
     

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