Lots of plow damage thus far

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  1. Wet_Boots

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    They all offer them, but local stocks have always been thin or non-existent. And I just thought of one very good reason for that, which is that a standard globe pattern valve makes for a shallower hole for a valve box, and we all know that nobody (but idiots like me) wants to dig a deep hole for a valve box.
     
  2. 1idejim

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    What do you mean, dig a deep valve box? If the friggin mainline is installed 18" deep ( like it should be) the elevation of the box doesn't change for a G/A valve compared to a inline or globe valve. Hydraulics are a bit better with a G/A valve if I'm not mistaken.

    The reason that G/A valves may be uncommon in some areas might be install methods. Pipe pullers don't seem to plant the pipe very deep as a rule. Just saying.
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  3. Wet_Boots

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    What 18-inch-deep mainline? Systems fed from basement water meters have a manifold near the house, far more often than not, and those manifolds are most likely seen in a half-height shallow valve box.
     
  4. 1idejim

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    That explains a lot
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  5. Without A Drought

    Without A Drought LawnSite Senior Member
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    In the last 15 years, outside of the years i worked installing the green lawns, i don't thing i have ever come across a 1" angle valve. i'm not saying that they don't exist, but they are extremely rare in my market.
     
  6. greenmonster304

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    I needed some 1" angle valves a couple years ago and I had to special order them
     
  7. Wet_Boots

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    the only time I ever designed with angle valves was with the Richdel globe/angle valves that were a 1-1/2 inch bonnet on a special 1-inch body - good for more than 30 gpm
     
  8. deekay1622

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    When I worked for an irrigation supply house, the Toro P-220 series valve was really popular with the commercial repair guys. It's a 3-way (in-line or angle) and has lots of cool features.

    Around $60 for a 1" but good value IMHO.

    I had an irrigation tech tell me he would use the P-220 angle set up and had a cool trick if their was ever debris stuck in the valve. He would install it with a ball valve right before the inlet on the angle set up, which he would close, then take out the plug on the inlet side of the in-line connection and hook up a Male Apapter with IPS hose and another ball valve. Then he could open up the first BV and flush out debris. He said he got a lot of use from that set up.

    I have not had any chance to use it, but maybe somebody else has done it this way and can point out the Pro's and Con's
     
  9. 1idejim

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    You can do the same with a shop vac with zero mess. Just saying.
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  10. greenmonster304

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    I smell a shop vac rep
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