Many of you will be surprised

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by MDLawn, Aug 13, 2012.

  1. MDLawn

    MDLawn LawnSite Bronze Member
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    So, I ordered all the materials for my first hardscape job at my brothers house, ya know if I screw it up it's only my brother.... Anyways while filling the order I ask about geo-textile fabric. The dealers response "We don't sell and it with new research the fabric is causing more problems than doing any good." I was stunned. This dealer holds seminars and everything too. Starting soon and would like to get the opinions.
     
  2. zedosix

    zedosix LawnSite Silver Member
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    Ideally you would be using geo-textile under your base material, but if not installed correctly or your base is not properly sloped and compacted then I'll agree, its a waste of time. Also depending what your soil condiitions are then it also plays a factor, if clay, you really should consider the use of geo.
     
  3. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
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    Your dealer over explained himself.

    Anytime anyone over explains - they have a guilt conscience.

    Geotextile fab is a must. cheap insurance.


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  4. MDLawn

    MDLawn LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I think I will due to heavy clays. Just need to source it from somewhere.

    He said is causes more problems with proper drainage.
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  5. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
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    Most suppliers know nothing about drainage. Or grading.

    They filled out a job application and got hired and trained to look up prices on the computer.



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  6. MDLawn

    MDLawn LawnSite Bronze Member
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    They are a builder too. Landmasters.net.
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  7. MDLawn

    MDLawn LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Found a geotextile supplier 2 miles from me. Great!! Feel better now.
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  8. zedosix

    zedosix LawnSite Silver Member
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    Now to figure out which one to use! Ask for gold line
     
  9. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
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    Yeah.

    And builders know nothing about soils. And stabilization. They'll build houses right ontop of disturbed soil. I've witnessed it.


    ICPI I believe says that fabric should be used on a case by case basis. Well, it costs about 11 or 12 cents per square foot to buy. From day one I have used fabric on every single job we have ever done. It makes me feel better about our work. Cheap insurance. I'd hate to have something fail because I didnt feel like spending 11 cents per sf.



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  10. Krafty

    Krafty LawnSite Senior Member
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    .11 -.12 cents what a schmuck, is this one of them things you guys swear you get what you pay for... lol but seriously I think we are paying closer to .07 a square for en-140.
     

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