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Mega Arbel advice

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by G_Dubs, Sep 5, 2012.

  1. G_Dubs

    G_Dubs LawnSite Member
    Posts: 55

    We're doing our first Mega Arbel job next week and I'm looking for input of the pattern.

    A friend of mine who uses them often tells me what a bear they are and that the pattern is really tough to figure out and keep correct throughout the job, but my local supplier told me today that there is no real "pattern" and to just lay the cloverleaf configuration without putting the same pavers to close to each other.

    Opinions? Is there a definite pattern to stick with, or do I just lay them out and keep the joints random?

  2. big daddy b

    big daddy b LawnSite Member
    Posts: 95

    There is most definitely a pattern wit Mega Arbel, I think of it as a turtle. There's a head, front "arms" back "arms" and the tail.
    That's just how I picture it and keep it in pattern. They only fit one way, you can put a few pieces in wrong like, 3 or 4 pieces, then you realize you did it wrong and have to go back. I've done that a couple of times first starting out. But once your built out enough it goes pretty easy.

    They are beefy pavers though, measure 3 1/8" thick, Even better when your cutting in the soldier course.

    All I can say is, have fun. Wish I had some pictures for you to check out, but I don't have them on my laptop.
  3. Birchwood

    Birchwood LawnSite Member
    Posts: 218

    Once you get the clover leaf figured out it goes fast, but I agree if you toss one in the wrong way and it will screw you up.

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  4. G_Dubs

    G_Dubs LawnSite Member
    Posts: 55

    I think I found a pattern online that I can work from, but I do see the turtle shape now. I see 6 different pieces, right?
  5. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 6,417

    LOL - the responses make me laugh!

    I never heard of a "turtle" or a "clover leaf".

    We always just layed the blasted stuff! If you try to think abou what you're doing - then it gets tricky getting it started. Just drop it in place and don't think about it.

    With the Arbels we usually start in the middle. If it's butting up to foundations, walls, etc - there will be alotta cutting. I hope you factored in additional time for the cutting, it's a PITA (if it's butting up to anything).

  6. zedosix

    zedosix LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,635

    The boys just finished one and it goes real fast, cutting is a major pita though. There is a set pattern they just don't go in random.
  7. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 6,417

    Yes, they don't go random.

    But try telling immigrant workers to "install a cloverleaf"!

    That would go as well as when I tell them the "I pattern".

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  8. big daddy b

    big daddy b LawnSite Member
    Posts: 95

    The turtle shape was an idea from our local Belgard rep that was on a driveway job we did last year, not my own, but it stuck in my mind and worked out good.

    But just follow DVS's advice and just don't think about it...at all, that should work out really well for you.:hammerhead:
  9. zedosix

    zedosix LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,635

    off topic but what is the max size picture that can be uploaded
  10. zedosix

    zedosix LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,635

    I just noticed but those walls are installed on top of the arbel! I was looking at how nice your cuts were when I noticed that!!

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