Mid Mount VS Front Mount

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by tru cut, Jun 26, 2001.

  1. tru cut

    tru cut LawnSite Member
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    Iwould like to know how meny of you are using front mounts and why. I'am thinking of changing to a front mount. I now have a JD 665 mid but I feel there is to much weight over the rear tires causing them to leave ruts even after just one pass.With me at 6'7" 240lbs and the engine rite over the weels i would say thats a lot of weight where as with a front mount the weight should be more spread out and also thay seem to have wider tires both on the drive and caster.
     
  2. gene gls

    gene gls LawnSite Gold Member
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    I run a Walker 48" GHS unit 20 HP.The unit is lighter than most,frame is flexable, the deck tilts up for service of blades, rear discharge so you can trim cut on either side of deck, better vission of deck for mowing,can mow under tree limbs further than you can reach with a hand trimmer. Most Walker decks are interchangeable. I also have a 62" SD deck for large open areas. Looking to get another power unit for the 62" deck so I don't have to keep changing decks.

    Gene
     
  3. BLakin01

    BLakin01 LawnSite Member
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    I have run both the mid and front mounts, and I would have to say that I prefer the front better. Like you said, better weight displacement.

    Brandon
     
  4. TLS

    TLS LawnSite Fanatic
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    What front mount are you considering? That makes a lot of difference. I used to have a JD F-935 and find that I am at least doubling my efficiency with my Lazer. Unless you go with a Walker, a front mount of any other will be a step backwards in maneuverability. The Walkers are small and compact, and if you like to bag, there is no comparison. My Lazer is Liquid cooled and thus a couple hundred pounds heavier than a standard AC Lazer. I find no more rutting when wet due to its large wide drive and caster tires. I would demo whatever you are thinking of trading up to before you buy. I think you should stay with what you got because it is probably the fastest and most maneuverable maching that JD sells.
     
  5. David Gretzmier

    David Gretzmier LawnSite Gold Member
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    sorry- but I don't care for walkers or most front mounts, and I've owned several. You will meet more people who went from front to mid and say they make more $$$ and the folks who go mid to front do so because of attatchments or ride. I've had both and will put up with the ride to get the $$$. I rutted more with fronts because thier is more weight to swing on the tail, and traction is always better when the weight is over the drive wheels. good luck. Dave g
     
  6. awm

    awm LawnSite Gold Member
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    its been a while but if i had run my old front mount as fast as i do my lazer,the deck would have bounced like a basketball.
    not saying newer fronts cant cut fast but i can cut at 9 mph
    and leave a smooth cut.it also trims better than any mower ive owned.
    if i went front i think it would be walker with side discharge.
    im sure some fellas learn their front mt well enough to convince them its the best.learning the machine is really the key.IMHO
    BY THE WAY MINE IS A 96 LAZER SO ITS NOT THE FASTEST MIDMOUNT
    OUT THERE.
     
  7. Alan

    Alan Member
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    I'm running a Lazer Z Exmark, mid mount. Tried a couple others and found that front mounts on the zero turn design will not hold hills like the mid mount will. The "backwards tractor" design front mounts will hold hills but are not nearly as nimble as the zero turn designs (Grasshogger, Walker, Woods). I don;t see any appreciable rutting from the drive tires on my machine and the newer Lazers have wider tires yet.
     
  8. swn

    swn LawnSite Member
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    I have trying to decide if I want to get a mid mount or stay with the outfront, grasshopper. I demoed a midmount grasshopper today. It was fast!! But as to be expected the ride was not as good. As awm said, learning the machine is the key. I am used to the outfront, so of course the midmount felt a little awkward at first, but it was fast and also left a nice smoothe cut.
     
  9. David Gretzmier

    David Gretzmier LawnSite Gold Member
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    our midmount grasshopper has been to the shop alot, along with the frontmount. you need to have good dealer support as these things break. they cut great, but we are moving away from them in spite of a wonderful dealer. take a look at the midmounts plastic hydraulic resovoir. yes PLASTIC. and yes it broke. the levers in the back on the pumps- that breaks ALOT. and the pto's seem to go about every 200 hours without running double blades. I could go on, but I am sick and tired of fixing these things when they are less than a year old each. and these are the kubota and kubota gas ones, the "good" ones. sorry to rain on your choice, and I hope you get a good one. I've had 5 bad ones out of 5. no more for me. Dave g
     
  10. tru cut

    tru cut LawnSite Member
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    If i go ot a front mount i would probley look at the new JD 1435 the dealer just got one in as soon as its set up i will try it. the only reason for JDis there is not any other dealers for any thing else around I live in the sticks nearest city is 2hrs.Also does any one know what the widest tire is.Right now it has 23x10.5x12 I have seen alot of the new mids have 24x12x12 is there any thing wider?
     

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