What do you think this would look like? As some mentioned going 3ft off the foundation brick, and put in plants in that area. I think I should get all the grass out all of it. Bring in some top soil, plant the plants with edgers around the plants, and put red lava stone on the top of the soil. Then lay the 10ftx10ft patio stones against that. For patio: get the grass out, bring in ome top soil and paver sand put than down 1inch thick, and then lay the stones, and use that to fill in the cracks once the job is completed. I can use 2x4's for the box right to lay the stone in? Can I get 2x4's in 10ft lengths? It would be cheaper just to plant the plants and finish with mulch, and then lay the stone, but if i do that would the patio have to be higher than the plant area?