Right @scottslawn, almost every thread i see has someone playing devil's advocate. Everybody knew what I meant... so i thought anyway.... besides @djagusch. Rodney King asked "Can't we all get along?" The answer is NO. My saying is "You gotta grow up sometime.... PICK A DAY." ...ANY ole day will do. ...this is a LAWN CHAT-SITE, the "Horticulture Nazi" will not be checking our grammar. ..p.s. @people that do not understand the questions that I pose, just don't reply.... IT'S THAT EASY, I Refuse to make everything comprehensible by a 2nd grader.