Ted, PM me your best mixture for DG control. I usually don't have much problem with my constant lawns unless they sod and it comes from the farm. If I see a DG sprout up to the 4-5 tiller stage growing in my bermuda.......I rip it out. I don't want to play with it either. Yes, playing the game of hit and miss does piss customers off but what are we to do when the hammer falls.