MSU:Water lightly and frequently during summer?

Discussion in 'Turf Renovation' started by slash8118, Jun 30, 2012.

  1. greendoctor

    greendoctor LawnSite Fanatic
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    This is also cool season grass which will shut down if it is over 80. Not managing temperature on those grasses means a reseeding.
     
  2. R&S Lawn Care

    R&S Lawn Care LawnSite Senior Member
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    Learned something new again. Never really considered the cooling effect on soil and grass itself. Just giving the grass and soil drink has multiple benefits. Of course being in Oklahoma im fairly new to cool season grasses.
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  3. greendoctor

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    Place yourself in the grass's shoes. It is over 80. You are not in an AC building or truck. Now doesn't a pool, fountain, sprinklers, or a hose sound good. Don't answer if you are actually the wicked witch of the West.
     
  4. Duekster

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    Bermuda moves in :laugh:
     
  5. greendoctor

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    I frequently have to answer how to kill bermuda in other grasses. That is the sign that you are not managing irrigation right for that kind of grass. Bermuda takes a beating if it is too wet or it rains too much.
     
  6. Duekster

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    Rumor has it, Ric can rid a SA lawn of Bermuda. You have to try hard to over water Bermuda around here.
     
  7. greendoctor

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    Conversly, it moves in because the lawn is kept too dry or temperature management is not kept in mind. I can see it invading a cool season lawn allowed to bake or an SA lawn on an irrigation ban/restriction.
     
  8. Kiril

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    This is beyond an enormous waste of water. There is absolutely no reason or need to practice syringing on resi/comm turf, with the possible except of turf in pure sand ..... which then begs the question WHY! If someone is planting turf on pure sand in a resi/comm scenario, then they need several swift kicks in the head.

    How is it I can maintain relatively disease free fescue in an area with no rain, average summer temps in the mid to upper 90's, with 3-5 day irrigation intervals? The reason your grass can't keep up Riggle is quite likely because you are restricting the rooting depth and density with your daily light watering.

    Unless you have the ability to core to 2+ feet, this is pointless. Plus, rooting depths can be highly variable from site to site, or even on the same site. That said, some of the fescue I manage has root zones that extend well past 12".

    Resi/comm turf is not sports turf, and it should not be manged like sports turf.
     
  9. Duekster

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    Party is over :laugh:
     
  10. Smallaxe

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    Field tests are the only way to prove/disprove the validity of a theory/myth, which has been held for a period of time...
    Clay Loams are the ones that have the water problems, while sand is obvious in it water supply...
    The heavy topsoil placed on top of sandy hills, tend to dry from underneath, from what I can tell... the problem has always been , getting the water to soak in deep enough to actually reach the point of draining... fact is, that the surface tends to soak up water quickly then begins the runoff and the evaporation pools...
    Long soaking rains/irr. events at irregular intervals are rather unrealistic...

    We're have low humidity and wind, under burning sun, here is Wisco for most of the month... how's the non-irrigated mature lawns doing over there???
     

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