Mulch Drainage Issue

Discussion in 'Landscape Maintenance' started by Roachy, Mar 3, 2012.

  1. LindblomRJ

    LindblomRJ LawnSite Silver Member
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    There is a time and a place for a french drain. I am of the opinion that this isn't the best fix for this area. There are others who disagree with me, that is fine.

    Here is my thought looking at the pictures and looking at the problem, it isn't a slope issue, it is fence and a mulch issue.

    Beyond the fence there is evidently french drain system in place. So the drainage was apparently don't correctly before you were called to the site. The problem happens with the mulch is carried to the fence and plugs up the outlet. The idea of clearing the path of the mulch and adding fabric under river rock to create a dry stream effect. There is already rock back there, so the dry stream bed will not look out of place and will fit in really nicely.

    The advantages, you are using the surface to your advantage, it is already there. Next you dig up a yard and drop a franch drain which is well and good, but you have to dump the water out somewhere. I am guessing that will lead an outlet lower than drains on the other side of the fence. That is creating more work and headache for you.
     
  2. Procut lawn expert

    Procut lawn expert LawnSite Member
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    thats what i would do you will not have to worry about it anymore if you do the french drain 18 inches put drain rock about 3 inches from the top of the ground then put river rock or those rock they already have. i would go bye lowes or if you have a john deere landscapes they have the pipe that is a french drain pre made all you do is dig it out put the pipe in then put you rock down i would just fill the rest up with drain rock because it is cheaper then put your landscape rock over it to make it look good.. i have put in 346 french drains and i give a two year guarantee on it that if they have any trouble i will come back and fix it and i have not been back in 10 years to fix one yet .
     
  3. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
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    The impression I got from those pictures, is that the paver pathway is the low spot and as water builds up, the ground saturates...
    Because there are probably puddles between the mulch and the river stone, could be the reason for the dirt marks on the stone pile... That river stone should be lower than the pavers and it should collect the majority of the water from the impermeable surfaces...

    You didn't mention dogs before... the dogs are moving the mulch and the rain is just moving the dirt, for the most part...
     
  4. White Gardens

    White Gardens LawnSite Fanatic
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    Exactly.

    The grade of the beds is too high in relation to the sidewalk.

    Either drop the grades of the beds, or do some sort or restraint along the sidewalk. Personally I would drop the grade of the beds as I don't like the look of raised edging along the pavers.

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  5. tyler_mott85

    tyler_mott85 LawnSite Senior Member
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    This is my immediate idea for this problem. Since there is a drain on the other side of the fence as the OP stated I would just open up a way for the river to run. Make sure as others have said that the finished grade of the river bed is lower than the pathway. This isn't the level of the ground before the rock this is the level of the river bed when all is said is done. After pictures would be just swell. :dancing:
     
  6. White Gardens

    White Gardens LawnSite Fanatic
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    Only other suggestion I have is to add a lot more plantings in their to help hold the soil.

    The biggest problem is that paver path seems like it was installed too low in relation to the fence also.

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