Ok guys and gals, I,m new here on the forum and am real impressed with what you all have to say but let me just say this about leaves. I used to hate em, now I love em!! We used to blow out the beds and tight spaces with backpack blowers, then nibble away at the piles with out Walker 48". Most of the properties took 10 to 20 man hours!!! We charged hundreds. NOW we still blow the leaves out of the beds and tight spaces into the lawn or driveway. These pyles can get 5' tall and run hundreds of feet long. We use our 5' Exmark turftracer walkbehinds with mulching kits. Push down on the bars and GO GO GO!!! I relize running over the pyles several times seems foolish but you can knock those huge pyles down to just inches tall. Then either pick up the debris with your collection system or if still in the lawn, use the backpack blowers to "blend" into the grass. These jobs now take " and i am not kidding " 3-6 hours and we still charge the same amont as we used to. The clients got used to the fees so Yipee!!