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My new nightmare

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Gene $immons, Dec 28, 2004.

  1. Gene $immons

    Gene $immons LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,028

    As you may have read in another post, I bought a Dixie Chopper for next season. Excellent machine.

    I am afraid that some of my customers are going to want their lawn bagged and I need some polite ways to explain to them how their lawns will look just as nice without bagging.

    I was thinking about telling them that we can bag, but I won't be able to charge the same price if we have to use 21's.

    I was also wondering if there were any links on the benefits of mulching.

    What would you tell them?
     
  2. Ric

    Ric LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 11,946

    Gene

    Over 10 years ago the state of Florida put on a big campaign to stop bagging. The reason was the landfills. Today no one bags to my knowledge, of course there are some station wagon guys who do I am sure.

    You might want to check http://www.ifas.ufl.edu/ website I am sure they have some info some were about the benefits of mulching.
     
  3. Norm Al

    Norm Al LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,227

    not bagging has been proved by UF to save the customer the equivalent of one fert/insecticide per year!

    that being said tell the customer you will blow any excess grass to one area of the lawn and rake it up if it needs it!
     
  4. RIVERRATT01

    RIVERRATT01 LawnSite Member
    Posts: 10

    I Have A 48" Exmark With The Bagger...it Can Make Quick Work Of Customers "that Have To Have It Bagged". Its Some What Expensive . But Worth The Investment, And You Can Charge More...
     
  5. Ric

    Ric LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 11,946


    Norm

    Yes well fertilized grass contains 3% Nitrogen by total weight. or for every 33 pounds of grass clipping there is 1 pound of Nitrogen. Of course not all that Nitrogen is available to the turf. Microbes will eat much of it. However returning clipping helps build SOM (Soil Organic Matter) to soil and helps increase CEC and Hydraulic conductivity.

    Now the biggest complaint about not Bagging is the weed seeds. Many believe that Bagging helps from spreading weed seeds. In fact Mulching builds stronger lawns that resists weeds. Modern chemical have reduced weed problems.
     
  6. naturescaretaker

    naturescaretaker LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 850

    Gene,

    The above posts are solid information. Here is a couple of ideas. First, I don't know which DC you have but get the quad setup on it asap. Tell your customers that you will cut it with the DC and the OCDC closed the first time. Explain the benefits to them by mulching as noted above. If they are not satisfied then bag it. We have a Trac-Vac on our DC and it works OK. It lifts on and off. However, it is off 99% of the time.

    The biggest complaint I have heard about mulching is that after the cut and they walk through the yard little grass clippings get on their shoes and then into their house. We do two things. After the cut and we are blowing we aim the blower to also blow the drives and sidewalk grass area back about 5 feet. That way if the customer steps off the sidewalk the bulk of the grass laying on top is blown clear of the step area we call it. Then as the crew is leaving they cycle the irrigation system to soak the clippings and they usually fall down into the grass.

    Just my 2 cents.
     
  7. Albemarle Lawn

    Albemarle Lawn LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,544

    YOU CAN DO IT!!!

    Customer: "Can you bag my lawn?"

    Lawn Guy: "No."


    Piece of cake.
     
  8. naturescaretaker

    naturescaretaker LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 850


    EVERYONE has their price..... :p :blob3: :p
     
  9. Lux Lawn

    Lux Lawn LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,267

    We bag when we need to but at other times I tell the customer that there will always be a neat appearance when we are done and you will not notice if we bagged or not in most cases.
    I had a guy last year that wanted his lawn bagged but left it up to me to deside on weekly basis, halfway through the year he said "thank you for bagging my lawn".We only picked it up a few times in the spring and would either double cut it or blow it off with the backpacks.
     
  10. Soupy

    Soupy LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,125

    When did DC come out with a mulching mower? If you are talking about closing the OCDC then it will not work. Closing the OCDC will cause windrows of grass on the discharge side.

    You can still leave a nice cut without bagging, but it does not mulch. The OCDC is not meant to be a mulcher, it is meant to control the clippings from going into mulch beds etc.

    This is the whole reason I stopped using DC and switched to a mower that can be fitted with a mulch kit. I use the QwikChute when we are discharging to keep grass were we don't want it to go, but 90%+ of the time it is open.
     

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