I've built USGA spec before and it would have been nice but I didn't have the budget for that so I went with how they did it back in the days of yore. Hacked it to the nubs with the lawnboy then a few tons of course sand, seed and water. Rolls great and I have some nice natural breaks. It's rolling about a ten right now but have a few scalps to nurse in before the snow flies. I need to photobucket I guess.