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My Stihl BR600

Discussion in 'Mechanic and Repair' started by MOW ED, Oct 5, 2009.

  1. MOW ED

    MOW ED LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 5,028

    I love the thing but it is now giving us fits. For the last couple weeks I am finding that it will run strong but then miss a time or 2. I know all the issues with the floating fuel filter and I find the miss with a full tank also. Within the last few weeks it will run for a minute and then stop like I pushed the kill switch. Then it becomes a bear to start if at all for a while. I even replaced the $9.00 spark plug thinking it was bad. I cleaned the fuel filter which wasn't terrible either.
    I have it at the dealer now and after 2 days they called and said that they can't find anything wrong with it. He said they fire it up, blow the lot and it runs great. I am giving them a couple more days with it but I can see a 50.00 shop charge for nothing in my future and I know someting is not right with it.

    Anyone have any hints for me? Its 2 years old and probably has 100 hours on it. It has not had a valve adjustment. When it runs it is strong but the intermittent missing is troubling as well as the dead stopping. I have racked my brain and am leaning to an electrical issue but I don't know where to start.
     
  2. Two Seasons

    Two Seasons LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 791

    Do the valve job. Either you or dealer as you'll notice the difference right away.

    0.015 clearance IIRC. Basically a business card width.
     
  3. ricky86

    ricky86 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,700

    Tell him to replace the ignition module. It has a extended warranty on it. If it's under 2 it's free. 2 - 5yrs part free, you pay labor. And 50.00 is a lot for test running a unit. And if he can't tell if it needs the valve clearance checked, pick it up from him and find a Gold Level / Elite dealer (like we are). Monkeys can't fix anything.
     
  4. MOW ED

    MOW ED LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 5,028

    Ricky86 YOU ROCK. Two seasons I am gonna do the valves myself, thanks also.
    I called the dealer again and they said that after trying it every other day they found no problem. So I drove there to pick it up and the counter guy said that he felt bad that they couldn't find anything so lets go out back and fire it up. I did suggest the ignition coil like you said.
    When we tried, it didn't start. He put a jumper wire on the plug and the plug wire (it has a little light in between) and pulled. No light. No spark.

    Verdict, new coil on order. I bought it in May of 07 so I will pay labor. No problem. I could be mad about being jerked a little but what the heck, its going to be fixed before leaf season. Thanks for the help.:waving:
     
  5. RonAyersMotorsports

    RonAyersMotorsports LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 854


    Yes I have seen a few of these coils misfire. The only way to actually know this is the problem is to replace it with a new one and then check the running. The coil has a 2 year parts and labor warranty and a 5 year parts warranty. Just like this guy said.
     
  6. Buzz it

    Buzz it LawnSite Member
    Posts: 25

    ItÂ’s really unfair that some parts of the country (Ga., Fl.) can sell the BR600 Magnum for $439.99 but can't sell it outside the state on the INTERNET and we in California have to pay $489.99 and up. Not fair in these economic times! Please let others know before they pay to much when other manufacturers have better WARRANTIES and just as good blower specifications. Check out Tanaka TBL7800R with 7 yr. warranty for $431.99 out the door OR Echo PB755T/H with 5 yr. warranty for $451.99 out the door OR shindaiwa EB633RT with 2yr. warranty for $411.99 out the door at WiseSales.com in Illinois, usa with no tax or shipping costs. STIHL DOES NOT SEEM TO BE FAIR WITH THEIR SELLING METHODS CONCERNING CA, what is happening in other states I wonder. Anybody know? By the way Echo makes Shindaiwa. Shin 633 same as Echo 755 (like CHEVY SILVERADO and GMC SIERRA)
     
  7. jbturf

    jbturf LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,404

    similar issue,
    just had my 4 year old br600 into the shop
    it was getting a little hard to pull over

    they did full tune up/valve adj
    when i got it back it now has an intermittent
    cut out at full throttle- feels as though the kill switch
    was hit for a second

    any rate sounds very similar to the OP issue,
    how should i aproach this issue
    i did notify the shop of the issue the very same day i picked
    it up from them- maybe i should just drop it off over the winter
    and mention the ign coil?

    thanks
    Josh
     
  8. topsites

    topsites LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 21,654

    Wait...

    I've had this problem as well, not just with the br600 but most any machine
    can do it at times, pita pos load...

    So I went out and bought a big bad tube of die-electric grease, and ever since
    every single spark plug on any machine of mine, I hit up the tip of the plug
    with a dab of that grease.

    Then I also make sure the connector inside the boot is snug enough, sometimes I'll
    crimp it LIGHTLY (and be dang careful) with a set of pliers to snug it up some but be
    aware you can flatten that piece too (and then you're sol thou you can use a screwdriver
    to pry it back open).
    Anyhow...

    As I install it, I like to hear or at least feel it 'click' when the connector snaps onto the plug.

    Can't say it fixes every problem, but I can tell you it's fixed things at least once before.
     
  9. rotti1968

    rotti1968 LawnSite Member
    Posts: 169

    Im a gold tech and I agree 110% at the most bench fee for our shop is 20.97 covers about 15 minutes of diag. If they can not figure it out in that time then they dont have a clue.All stihl products purchased after 2003 have a 2 year warranty on carburetors, 2 year parts and labor on coils and after 2-5 parts only as was stated. I would replace the coil on this unit , have seen a few recently with the same issue and a new coil took care of it .
     
  10. rotti1968

    rotti1968 LawnSite Member
    Posts: 169

    Are you using synthetic or part synthetic oil for your mix ? if not thats the issue for hard to pull over the standard oil over time when mixed a little rich creates a film over all moving internal parts and it becomes very sticky and hard to turn over. this can be fixed by spraying some carb cleaner into the impulse hose and pull the recoil to cycle it through the unit and let sit for a while . it should free it up, the intermittent cut off at full throttle sounds like its the module, loss of spark,bad rev limiter(built into the the module)
     

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