My trip to NJ DMV today...about class A

Discussion in 'Trucks and Trailers' started by mrusk, Apr 11, 2006.

  1. mrusk

    mrusk LawnSite Gold Member
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    Since i am buying a 14k gvw trailer i figure i better go make sure i don't need a CDL to tow it. I go down to the MVC office and tell them i will be towing a 14k gvw with a 9000gvw truck. They i talked to 3 different people. They all looked at me like it was the dumbest question ever and than said 'No i don't need a cdl'.

    So i guess in NJ i am ok.

    Matt
     
  2. NJemerald

    NJemerald LawnSite Member
    from NJ
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    Hey mrusk, Where you out of???
    I just had a buddy pulled over on 80 last week for being over the weight limit required for having a cdl! I'll have to check with him again for the details, if your interested!?

    Bryan
     
  3. mrusk

    mrusk LawnSite Gold Member
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    I'm from northen NJ.

    Yea check with your buddy. i'd apperciate it!
     
  4. Shortchained

    Shortchained LawnSite Member
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    The law says if your trailer is over 10,000 lbs. a class A CDL is required.
     
  5. janb

    janb LawnSite Senior Member
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    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/registration-licensing/cdl/cdl.htm

    Classes of License:

    The Federal standard requires States to issue a CDL to drivers according to the following license classifications:

    Class A -- Any combination of vehicles with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds provided the GVWR of the vehicle(s) being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.

    Class B -- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing a vehicle not in excess of 10,000 pounds GVWR.

    reading between the lines... 26001 GVWR triggers CDL need, over 26k PLUS TOWING with trailer rating under 10k = B; -but with trailer rating over 10k = A

    REMEMBER... It is the GVWR, Not the actual weight. It's an expensive ticket, so I keep a CDL (with DOT medical card - required...)
     
  6. AintNoFun

    AintNoFun LawnSite Bronze Member
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    i will tell you there is a HUGE DIFFERENCE in what the half breeds at DMV tell you and what the staties are gonna write you a ticket for. i'd call your local state police barracks and ask them...
     
  7. mrusk

    mrusk LawnSite Gold Member
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    STRIGHT FROM THE CDL MANUAL

    class a is need if you drive

    -A tractor trailer
    -A truck and trailer with a GCWR of 26,001 or more pounds, provided the GCWR of the vehicle being towed is more than 10,000 pounds.


    Thats word for words. What do you think of that? I think its acctually pretty clear.
     
  8. 2004F550

    2004F550 LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 270

    I thought that regs were federal...in which case an trailer over 10k needs a CDL A....then if the combination is over 26k you need DOT numbers and a medical card too
     
  9. CutRight

    CutRight LawnSite Senior Member
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    your GCWR triggers the CDL requirements.

    GCWR over 26,000#s requires a CDL

    CDL REQUIRED:
    truck 9,900# GVWR + trailer 18,000# GVWR = 27,900# GCWR

    truck 20,000#GCWR + trailer 10,000#GVWR = 30,000#GCWR

    CDL NOT REQUIRED:
    truck 9,900#GVWR + trailer 14,000#GVWR = 23,900#GCWR

    truck 20,000#GVWR + trailer 5,000#GVWR = 25,000# GCWR
     
  10. CutRight

    CutRight LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 257

    you need DOT numbers if your GVWR is over 18,000#s


    you need commericial plates if your GVWR is over 12,500#s


    you need CDL A if your GCWR is over 26,000#s


    im going through this whole process right now registering for these numbers and my new trucks. iv talked to state police, and state DOT inspectors. Above is the simple answer.
     

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