Maybe I have ranted and raved on other posts. I probably deserve my post to be hijacked. But in reality not one person really addressed my question. I don’t care about any ones political position and views on illegal immigration. I especially did not ask for any ones views as to how it affected you or our industry. So with that said, I am here in the “Organic” forum of Lawn Site trying again to become educated. I have many lawns that are mostly clover and dandelions. I need to maybe use Corn Gluten Meal to prevent the weeds from germinating this spring. Then I was thinking of using Woodstream’s Ringer Lawn Restore a few months later with seeding. Maybe even virticut before seeding. I was thinking of maybe using Fish Emulsion and or Microp Organic Soil Builder as well as a fish emulsion and kelp separately or in combination. I figure that I should use a good pre-emergent. Then seed and use Ringer. A few months later use the Microp with fish emulsion and kelp. I hope that I will reinstate the microbial herd. Maybe this approach will start the process of turning the soil around. I hope to then establishing grass in the areas where the weeds currently are King. We are going to get the soil tested. I want to fix the ph as well as to know what the soil is starved of. I was wandering I was on the right track or not. I was looking for some guidance. I really want to use the organic approach. I truly believe Organic is the smartest and best program. In no means is it political. My choice is because it is the intelligent program. I don’t want a chemically dependant lawn whose microbial herd is dead. I want a self sustaining lawn that is healthy and has a symbiotic relationship with the soil and the food web sustained there in. I also don’t want potential for harming customers, their kids, pets or my self. Yeah I know many natural products are still quite harmful to humans and animals, but you know where I am coming from. I am not certified in chemical application. At this time I am performing research and wanting to learn. I want to start a program on my lawn. I also am trying to provide my church with advice. Their lawn is maybe 80% clover and dandelions. So if every one is over the Mexican thing, can we have a discussion about Organic programs?