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Need a new walk behind.

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by mdawson, Mar 23, 2009.

  1. mdawson

    mdawson LawnSite Member
    Posts: 44

    Hello all, newb here!

    I am ready to replace my current mower. It is a ~17 year old Honda commercial 21" that was given to me by my father in law. It works great when I only have to cut dry grass that is no more than about 4" tall, but my schedule doesn't allow that. I am a busy guy, father of 2, full time worker plus a side job. My last two attempts to mow the lawn took 3 hours each (and the yard is only 1/3 acre!).

    So, what am I looking for? Well, a 32-36 inch gear driven or hydro would be nice! I worked in the industry for a short time and got to use some Lesco mowers. They were nice machines and I have wanted something like that for personal use ever since. Last year the Cub Cadet CC760 at Home Depot caught my eye. And it still has my attention. The price is good, but I am unsure about how I will like the controls after using the Lesco models. So that made me start looking at the more traditional names (Exmark, JD, Scag, Toro, etc), but the prices are a little high for just a personal mower right now. Then I saw the Better Outdoor stuff mentioned on here and that has me thinking I could possibly swing the extra money if it is worth it. So this is where I turn to you, the pros. For a personal mower, cutting 1/3 acre is the Cub Cadet fine for my needs or should I really consider the BOP Quick series? I live near Charlotte, NC so I am not far from BOP headquarters in Winston Salem (I wonder if I could save on shipping and pick it up?).

    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. ALC-GregH

    ALC-GregH LawnSite Fanatic
    from PA
    Posts: 7,053

    I'm sure you can go direct and get it to save shipping. BOP makes a nice mower. I never used one but I read all the time that they cut great. They are a tad more compact then other commercial brands.
     
  3. mdawson

    mdawson LawnSite Member
    Posts: 44

    Thanks for your response. I did just read on the BOP site that you can pick up and they will actually take an additional $50 off the price! The compact size will also be nice as I only have a temporary shed up for now and it is smaller than I would like. I'm heading to Home Depot today to check out the Cub Cadet, but I'm leaning to the Quick right now.

    What are everyones thoughts on engine choice? Seems that the 15HP Kaw is the way to go. Is the extra $200 worth it to go electric start? My thoughts are likely no, more parts to replace. How about the "upgrade" to Gator Blades?
     
  4. mowerbrad

    mowerbrad LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 6,273

    Are you looking at the single hydro or the dually? For the price of that dually, I would seriously consider that one. I like equipment that is electric start just because it is a nice feature to have.
     
  5. mdawson

    mdawson LawnSite Member
    Posts: 44

    While a dual hydro would be nice I think they are just too far out of my price range for personal use. So I am considering just the single.
     
  6. mowerbrad

    mowerbrad LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 6,273

    A 32" dually with electric start is right now going for around $3200. The way I look at this is if you plan to keep this mower for a while you really won't be paying that much. These engine that are on them should last a home owner for as long as they have the mower. I don't think it is out of the question to have this mower last 20 years under your mowing conditions (with the proper maintenance of course). So if it does last you 20 years you would really only be paying $160/year to own that mower over its life time. I look at it this way, if you are going to be spending the money, why not get everything that you would want out of the mower, especially if you plan on keeping it for a while.
     
  7. DA Quality Lawn & YS

    DA Quality Lawn & YS LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 8,844

    I have the 15 HP Kaw machine with single hydro. Cut is excellent, power is excellent. You would be happy with it. Save your money on electric start, for the infrequent use you speak of, it wouldn't be worth it. The manual pull is a pretty easy pull, 1 or two pulls every time.

    My question is this: are you comfortable doing your own maint. and basic repairs? If not, don't look at the Quick. But really, maint is VERY easy on these machines. Take a strong look at it.
     
  8. mdawson

    mdawson LawnSite Member
    Posts: 44

    I hear where you are coming from, but the single hydro is $2200 so we are talking about an almost 50% increase to step up to dual hydros. I am already considering increasing my budget just to get the 32" or 36" single. In essence I would be easily doubling my initial cost estimate based on the Cub Cadet at HD ($1300). The extra grand between single and dual hydros could almost pay for my shed! And money spent on the shed increases property value. The mower doesn't! :)
    Thanks for the advice. My current Honda starts on the first pull every time. If the quick is similar I will have no problems using a manual start.
    I have no problems doing the maintenance and basic repairs and I could likely handle anything up to a full engine overhaul if I had to. It seems like parts are easily available, either through BOP or local shops. The same can not be said anymore of my Honda! :(
     
  9. mdawson

    mdawson LawnSite Member
    Posts: 44

    At lunch today I ran down to a couple of local dealers. One carries Simplicity and they had one of their walk behinds in the showroom. It has a 17.5HP Briggs electric start, single hydro, 32" cut and I can get it for around $1800. Seems like a nice mower, the controls seemed very nice. Anyone familiar with it? It is aimed at home owners so likely not.

    Also, I completely missed the fact that this site is aimed specifically at professionals in the industry. I just thought it was a cool site for gear heads like me! :eek:
     
  10. Lakewlc

    Lakewlc LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,159

    im not sure but i think the simplicity is the same thing as the ferris hydrocut which is a really good mower.. but i dont know if were talking about the same one
     

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