Need help pricing first patio, wall job!

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by mayhem69, Apr 8, 2014.

  1. mayhem69

    mayhem69 LawnSite Member
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    Hi, i have a customer that wants a 10 x 10 ft. paver patio, with small retaining wall, probably about 20 linear ft. for wall.
    Approx. how much stone if digging the 7 or 8 inches down?
    and then how much sand?
    sorry for noob questions, but im just learning.
    Just wondering how you guys price a job like this.
    Also i do not have a Bobcat to dig out the area.
    Is there another tool besides shoveling to make job easier?
    Also as far as edging, i have previously used plastic edging for a sidewalk, which i think sucks., what do you guys use for edging, i mean what is best to use for edging so the perimeter pavers do not shift out.
    I have done a couple sidewalks , retaining walls, but this will be my first patio, so any suggestions i am open to.
     
  2. whiffyspark

    whiffyspark LawnSite Fanatic
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    I was going to say pick axe and bucket.

    But seriously if you've done a "couple sidewalks and retaining walls" you should know what you're doing.
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  3. mayhem69

    mayhem69 LawnSite Member
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    whiffy, those jobs were for family, so the pricing was not accurate, i did the jobs for not much at all.
    Now that i am starting the business i just do not know how much to charge is all.
     
  4. whiffyspark

    whiffyspark LawnSite Fanatic
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    We can't help you with that honestly

    You need to sit down figure out all your costs and come up with an hourly rate. Then multiply how long it's going to take you plus material cost.

    Dvs knows what he is talking about. If you search his name he has covered it many many times.

    Also. I would use an ex before a bobcat. And damn sure before a shovel.
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  5. zedosix

    zedosix LawnSite Silver Member
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    When I started doing interlock in 1985 everything was done by hand. Builds character you know. Today, its bobcat this, mini ex that, hydraulic this, internet that. I mean 10 x 10 @ 8" deep, give me a break. You want to keep your costs down, get a helper and forget the equipment. Not to be hittin on the OP, just in general I find that everyone wants to research the crap out of something rather than just taking on the challenge. If its for family they'll understand. If its for a client then maybe you shouldn't be doing it if you can't figure it out.
     
  6. zedosix

    zedosix LawnSite Silver Member
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    Shovels? heck no whiff. Only bobcats and mini's for me.
     
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  7. whiffyspark

    whiffyspark LawnSite Fanatic
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    How often do you use bobcat? A friend of mine does everything with a skid

    Personally I can see a mini having more uses when hard scaping. As long as there isn't a lot of haul off. But I have a tractor as well.

    And we can use skid for snow.. And can only afford to get one this summer lol
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  8. zedosix

    zedosix LawnSite Silver Member
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    We do all digging with the minis, typically from bucket to dump box. Back yard - tight access jobs mini x into hydraulic wheel barrow. Larger open areas the terex comes in handy. The tracked units do a great job of grading with minimal ground disturbance.
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  9. zedosix

    zedosix LawnSite Silver Member
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    Too bad this thread went south, but maybe we need a sticky on "how to price" patios or walkways.
     
  10. whiffyspark

    whiffyspark LawnSite Fanatic
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    I think people are more worried about over or under charging then how to price

    People think they can make millions doing hard scapes and name their prices.
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