need help!

Discussion in 'Turf Renovation' started by Tim White, Jun 25, 2009.

  1. Tim White

    Tim White LawnSite Member
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    My lawn is so full of clover it seems like there isnt any grass anymore, any suggestions
     
  2. mzgloves20

    mzgloves20 LawnSite Member
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    sounds like you may have a nitrogen deficient yard. has it always been this way?
     
  3. bigslick7878

    bigslick7878 LawnSite Senior Member
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    Spray it with a herbicide.

    Wait until fall.

    Dethatch aerate and overseed and you will be good to go.
     
  4. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
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    Clover is hard to kill. Best time to kill - hard to kill broadleaf weeds is in the fall.
    Best time to plant grass is in the fall.

    What is the problem with a clover lawn?
    People only want grass because that is 'tradition'.
     
  5. Whitey4

    Whitey4 LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,448

    Ortho clover and oxalis killer. Yes, wanting a lush clover free lawn is a mechanism of soilogical behavior and values, as well as one's subjective opinion of what looks nice and what doesn't.
     
  6. RigglePLC

    RigglePLC LawnSite Fanatic
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    Try attitude adjustment. Think about it. Clover makes its own fertilizer by fixing nitrogen from the air. And all those bees visiting the blossoms make honey. So what is the problem?
     
  7. Think Green

    Think Green LawnSite Silver Member
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    Riggle,
    Can't help from laughing..................!!

    Tim,
    I won't go into my speel about clover. It is a subjectve matter on this site, as whether to, kill the clover or, or to let it grow and re-nitrificate the soil. Down south,,,,,,,,we kill the stuff dead because it isn't intended to grow in warm season turf unless you like the white flower cluster....or looking for the famed 4 leafed flower....?!?!?!!
    The clover has taken hold of your lawn for many reasons and one being neglect and unbalanced soi conditions. Whether clover is a desireable turf or not, in a solid fescue lawn, it is considerably an unwanted weed. Cultural changes will help in taking out the clover. Mowing desireable grasses taller throughout the season will help eliminate the weed. Fertilizing regularly will keep the nitrogen levels in check so the desireable turf will thicken or spread. Overseeding your lawn in the case of cool season turf will eliminate bare spots for clover to germinate and grow. Herbicides should be the last resort to control weeds, but sometimes you have to do what needs to be done.............kill em'!
    Google..........Clover control for cool season grass's and see what you can purchase to control these weeds in your area.
     
  8. cudaclan

    cudaclan LawnSite Member
    from Zone 5
    Posts: 152

    My lawn is not N deficient. I sow clover purposely for a lawn. Stays green and povides the N that it needs. It survives summer stress in the north better than fescue. Minimal amount off watering is required. Clover gets a bad rap.
     
  9. phasthound

    phasthound LawnSite Platinum Member
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    This is a well thought out and balanced post! :clapping::clapping:
    I'll just add, if you have to kill it, realize why it was there and take care of the cause. Herbicides are a band aid which only work on the symptom, not the cause.
     
    Last edited: Jun 27, 2009
  10. Whitey4

    Whitey4 LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,448

    It would seem the intentional mispelling in my post was... over looked? :)
     

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