Need Renovation Advice Southern Ohio

Discussion in 'Turf Renovation' started by wyoming lawn service, Aug 11, 2010.

  1. wyoming lawn service

    wyoming lawn service LawnSite Member
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    Hey everyone. I live in southern ohio, just north of Cincinnati. I need advice on what to do with my lawn.

    I have mostly I believe tall fescue and some kentucky 31 in the back yard. Good bit of weeds and crabgrass.

    I plan on just weed and feed the back yard. Need to keep it full of grass this fall for dogs and son.

    Front and side yard I want to this fall.

    1) Kill weeds
    2) Aerate and overseed or just slit seed. I plan to mow with bagger on lowest setting. Rake and then overseed.

    3) Sow tall fescue or KBG. Can't decided! Need help with suggestions.

    4) Lay down starter fertilzer.


    This is what has been to the yard so far.

    1) Overseed this spring with tall fescue but didn't do a great job. Then I got about 1000 dandilions and crabgrass. So I threw down a feed and feed in the spring.

    2) Liquid weed killer applied in later spring.
    3) Aug. 9th application of Scotts summer gaurd.
    4) Aug 11th application front and side of Ortho Weed Be Gone


    So I will in 30 days Mow really short and get ready to overseed. Need seed suggestions.

    Water, Water, Water.

    Starter fertilize.

    Next spring I can apply a pre-emergant for crabgrass and other weeds.

    Critques of my plan please...
     
  2. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
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    With dogs you need to understand what the lawn needs and how to finnesse the situation to include dogs.
    Years of dealing with lawns and dogs, have yeilded nothing but old wives tales and failure.
     
  3. bigslick7878

    bigslick7878 LawnSite Senior Member
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    You can weed, and THEN feed. Combo products that try to do both are for people who like the catchy "weed and feed" marketing ploy who have no clue.

    Spray a liquid weed killer NOW. It will take a good 2 weeks and a couple mowings before you eliminate a lot of the weeds. If there are large patches of crabgrass I would eliminate them with round up if possible. Spray the entire yard, no reason to only do the side like it appears you have.

    Then you can seed. In your area you need a turf type tall fescue. Water water water.

    After about a month (at the end of Sept) then you can FEED with a good fertilizer.
     
  4. wyoming lawn service

    wyoming lawn service LawnSite Member
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    Thank you!

    One question, how long do I need to wait until seeding after I spray a liquid weed killer?
     
  5. bigslick7878

    bigslick7878 LawnSite Senior Member
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    Wait until you mow twice and all the weeds are dead. About 2 good weeks or maybe 3 depending how bad it is.

    The liquid attaches to the foliage of the grass and does not get in the soil if that is what you are worried about.
     
  6. wyoming lawn service

    wyoming lawn service LawnSite Member
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    Ok I sprayed the whole yard with ortho weed be gone. Will spot spray crab grass and clumps of ky 31 with spectricide grass and weed killer tomorrow afternoon. Will need to now this weekend.

    Should I rent a core aerator or slit seeder?

    Thanks for your help!
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  7. bigslick7878

    bigslick7878 LawnSite Senior Member
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    If you want the best results rent both.

    Aerate and then slice it up and that seed is pretty much guaranteed to come in as long as you water it a lot.
     
  8. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
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    Where are the dogs going to be, during this time?
     
  9. wyoming lawn service

    wyoming lawn service LawnSite Member
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    Smallaxe I have a fenced backyard. I was mainly concernened about the front and side yard. If I overseed the back then they will be inside as usual. They only spend a little time outside. Until grass is established they can be taken on a walk to use the bathroom.

    I contacted my local Ohio state extension office. They recommend a turf type tall fescue blend.
    He also mentioned perrineal rye as suitable just not as attractibe. Which has me thinking I might use that for just the backyard.
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  10. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
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    I missread the OP, good luck.
     

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