just lost a commercial job to a guy who just started in the biz. i have done this job for 3 years. its my church, and we are going into a building program. they r going to move dirt soon so they wanted the job bid at an hourly rate. i bid it at $50 per hour. i know that is kinda low but it is about what i averaged on that yard and i wanted to cut them a deal. the guy that got the bid bought a new mtd pro last year and adjusted the deck so much that a dealer couldnt get it back correctly!!!! he sold it after he had it for 3 months. lost his a$$ too!!