LGF makes a couple of good points here on some things. Mowing only is a commidity service. Virtually any one and everyone can set up a mowing operation. Cutting grass is not that hard and the results are basically the same from one contractor to the next. The public knows this and can play that to their advantage. In the Northwest , we do very few mow only types of accounts. The majority of our work is all inclusive, wall to wall landscape maintenance where we do every thing on the property under one contractor or company. When we estimate a property, we find that mowing is usually less than 60% of the total time we spend on the property and the lower that number the better. This allows us to focus on other aspects of making the properties look good, as mowing is a very small portion of that process. We usually average 40% on these properties with the combined services. We also then get all the add on services and upgrade work on top of the monthy 12 month maintenance contract. I could actually take the numbers and process we talked about in those other posts and apply it to a mowing only operation and do well, but not as well as where you can provide a larer range of services that generate better margins. We keep everything under one roof so to speak, providing all exterior property services to our clients. If your only going to provide one service such as mowing, then your margins and profits are going to be significantly lower and you are going to have to make sure your logistical process, operational efficencies, and support process are flawless.You don't have an excess margin to give and labor is the largest problem there.