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Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Scag48, Jul 28, 2000.

  1. Scag48

    Scag48 LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 6,067

    Snow-I would offer more services if I had the money to buy the equipment. Not everyone has it the way you do. Oh, I think I need a new trimmer, I guess I'll go buy one. It's just not that easy for some of us. I don't offer just mowing, I offer trimming and will be doing vertical edging on some. My cousin doesn't offer any more than I do. I actually do more so I can't figure out why I got fired. I'm using my dad's mulching Toro instead of the other one that I borrowed. I don't understand why you don't think this is a big deal. Would you share your computer to help your competition? I know I wouldn't.
     
  2. snow

    snow Guest
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    first of all, you quote=&quot;Not everyone has it the way you do&quot;. First of all, i own all my equipment. you know how i get the money to buy new equipment, i save it. i have a savings account and i put 1/3 of my money into it. anyways, most of my equipment is used and in good shape. also you said this-&quot;I offer trimming and will be doing vertical edging &quot;. vertical trimming-that's another good term, along with &quot;lawn mowing industry&quot;. why don't you and your cousin do like what dave said, team up. i mean think of how easier it'll be. you can be the dynamic duo, the dream team. if you use a little common sense you might make it in the business world.<br>good luck,<p>bryan
     
  3. Greenkeepers

    Greenkeepers LawnSite Senior Member
    from NE Ohio
    Posts: 695

    Scag-<p>Tell your cousin to go to hell or quit complaining about it and team up with him it may just work. About offering services, if you can't afford a $85 trimmer from Home Depot then you need to rethink your pricing and/or line of work. Don't say &quot;but it's not commercial equipment&quot;. My answer: You have to start somewhere and an $85 trimmer is better than not offering the service. You said you have 8 lawns then you should be able to pay for that trimmer in a week???? <p>Mike<br>Greenkeepers
     
  4. Guido

    Guido LawnSite Silver Member
    Posts: 2,085

    SCAG48,<p>8 Lawns @ HOPEFULLY AT LEAST $20 a piece is $160.00 You can get a straight shaft Homelite trimmer that I gurantee you will be able to use for at least a couple years at your pace, it works it does the job, and its better than a eager beaver or weedeater.<p>Now for your mower $160 a week for 3 more weeks = $480. You can buy a top of the line 22&quot; Crapsman with that, or maybe even better if you shop around at your dealers, and put the rest towards a blower.<p>NOW THATS 1 MONTH OUT OF 12 AND YOU HAVE A SETUP THAT YOU WILL OWN AND CAN BE A LITTLE MORE PROUD OF, AND WILL DO THE JOB A LITTLE BETTER FOR YOU.<p>Can you go without that income for 1 month out of the year?? You don't have any other expenses besides your $5-$10 worth of gas a month, so go for it!!!<p>I'd tell you to go work for someone else and get some experience before you venture into thiis biz on your own, but I know your doing this for college money thats why I'm trying to help. But I think you might be able to make a little more money working for someone else a couple hours a week, and learn how to operate the real equipment, and do a full service quality job. This will also make you independent. Don't tell me you think you RUN your business when your mom drives you around to your jobs all afternoon. DO YOUR OWN THING!!!<p><p>----------<br>&lt;a href=&quot;http://communities.msn.com/guidosequipmentpics/&quot;&gt;&quot;Guido&quot;&lt;/a&gt;<br>David M. Famiglietti
     
  5. Toddppm

    Toddppm LawnSite Senior Member
    from VA
    Posts: 268

    F- your cousin, what a Richard Cranium(Di@#Head). Take your info off the computer if you haven't already. I wouldn't help him a bit. Don't let any of your customers or anyone else know you're even associated with him if they don't know already. He'll go down in flames.
     
  6. Scag48

    Scag48 LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 6,067

    Snow-Why do you have to be so negative to people? Just because I don't get 50 bucks a job doesn't mean you can thrash me. I save my money but I don't get all of it, making it almost impossible to buy equipment. I already have a Homelite trimmer but am looking into a blower or edger. I would buy used but nobody has anything for sale. My town population is 3,000 and there aren't very many people that want their lawn mowed. Guido- Don't really need a mower YET, but I wouldn't mind having one. I'm still shopping for a good used one but one hasn't come up. I won't buy anything Craftsman, too many bad experiences. I could go without income for 1 month easy. I don't have any overhead. I can't offer services year round, not enough to do. I can't shovel snow because of school. How else can I get around without someone driving me? If you think I'm 16, you're wrong.
     
  7. eslawns

    eslawns LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 712

    These guys are right. Forget your cousin. Take the money you earn and buy the tools for your work. I started in 95 with a $150 push mower from KMart and 1 lawn. Once your cousin steps on his johnson, hire him. Don't depend on family members or anyone else. It's YOUR business, YOUR responsibilty. <p>BTW, get a password for your computer. If that's not yours, put things that are on a floppy or Zip disk. Good luck.
     
  8. southside

    southside LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 790

    Have his legs broken.<p>Karl<br>
     
  9. Keith

    Keith LawnSite Gold Member
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    <br>Let me tell you a little story.<p>There once was this kid who got into the mowing industry. He didn't have alot of money, or a mower for that matter. But it didn't matter, he was motivated. He quickly became a force to be dealt with. He was taking lawns from the heavy hitters. (you know the type with there own mowers) He was on the move.<p>Then one day this sorry ass excuse for a cousin came in and started undercutting our friend. He even took his grandparents lawn. (damn that's hard core) But our friend didn't give up. He fought back. He told the whole town his cousin was distributing gay porn on the internet, and he has three monkeys locked in the basement. Things started changing. Customers began calling. He even got his grandparents lawn back. And he got a real good deal on his cousins mower after threating to rat him out about that pot plant growing in the back yard.<p>Your cousin is just trying to rattle your cage. He is probably a little older than you and knows what will piss you off and he is playing off of it. Don't worry about him.<br><p><font size="1">Edited by: Keith
     
  10. little green guy

    little green guy LawnSite Senior Member
    Posts: 955

    hey scag i wouldn't worry to much about him. I've been in simulair situations before with friends and stuff because they see you making money and want a peice of it. They are usally done in a couple months cause they don't have what it takes and I usually buy there euqipment, take there accounts and then they usaully end up working for me for a while. Also I was partners with my cousin from the beging of fall 3 years ago till the end of the next spring, didn't work out and know he works in shoprite. Anyway if your situation is anything like mine I wouldn't worry about it I where you. good luck<p>PS- what's up wit ur grandparents????? damn
     

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