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New Holland L220

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment & Pavement' started by AMCAT, May 23, 2011.

  1. AMCAT

    AMCAT LawnSite Member
    from Ontario
    Posts: 173

    Our local NH dealer brought in an L220 (new series NH) and a friend of mine had it on Demo he drove it over to my place to hook up the hydraulic flowmeter to check if The high flow is what NH says it is supposed to be for GPM & PSI .. that seemed fine but the hydraulic oil got hot real quick and even from just driving few KM down the road in 2 speed the hydraulic oil Temp Warning came on :cry: Has anyone else come accross this issue ?? Seems like the cooling capacity is not there ..:confused:
  2. bobcat_ron

    bobcat_ron LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 10,101

    Maybe their fan system just needs to be tweaked, or the dealer sucks balls at proper PDI.
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  3. ksss

    ksss LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 7,129

    I would put in a vote for the later. The CASE mechanics here have not yet been to school to learn how to work on these machines yet. Granted they have not received any new machines yet but I bet the machines get here before they know what to do with them. Just a hunch.
  4. meets1

    meets1 LawnSite Gold Member
    Posts: 3,775

    Concrete crew here bought 4 new NH series skids. Everyone has had touble - there excuss the men in the shop have no idea yet on these new machines as what to do to tweak things.

    I have to wonder though why by a NH machine when case makes them. Is there a big difference b/t the two machines? I figure if case makes NH then case must be the superior machine and the NH a knock off with a few details missing to reduce the price tag compared to case.

    But I have the new S650 now so I gotta run this one for a few hours! I did love my past case machines but lost dealer in town and I wanted to stay close so it was either BC or NH.
  5. Digdeep

    Digdeep LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,840

    What kind of load were you putting on the flow meter...1000psi, 2000psi? This constant load could be what was causing this. I wouldn't really be too shocked since I've always thought NHs had marginal hydraulic capability anyway..small displacement gear pumps and low pressure settings. I don't think NH ever figured their machines as real hydraulic performers in the first place vs. their steryotypical agricultural roles. At least in my area.
  6. AMCAT

    AMCAT LawnSite Member
    from Ontario
    Posts: 173

    Were shifting the load somewhat but kept it 2000-2500 psi if we went up to 2800 psi where it started releiving the temp went up pertty fast

    JDSKIDSTEER LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,163

    You should not have to tweek things and meter things when you PDA a machine. That should all e done when the first few hundred come off the line untill they get the line all set up right. Everyone has a few bugs that slip through when they have a new series come out. But true, the machines usualy come out before the training begins.
  8. AEL

    AEL LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,724

    The machines are made by CNH. Case and New Holland are the same company
  9. ksss

    ksss LawnSite Fanatic
    Posts: 7,129

    I think they were just flow checking the machine to see if the printed specs actually matched the machine. This was not done by the dealer.

    Given this post, I spoke with the service manager and he has guys signed up for training but they will not be back before the machines arrive. He said they will bring in a product specialist to assist with setting up the new machines. I prefer that BIC do my PDI actually, don't know if that will happen.
  10. Digdeep

    Digdeep LawnSite Bronze Member
    Posts: 1,840

    Good call. I wouldn't pay any money for what Case and NH are calling high-flow unless it was the BIC system. All CNH is doing is adding an additional 18cc (1.12cu in) 12gpm gear pump to combine flows so that they have a high flow. Saves a ton of money from an OEM standpoint but is the poorman's way of of getting a real high flow system.:nono:

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