New Holland vs. John Deere Skid Steers

Discussion in 'Landscape Architecture and Design' started by Striper, Apr 25, 2004.

  1. Striper

    Striper LawnSite Member
    from WV
    Posts: 32

    Hello, I am getting ready to purchase a new skid steer. The two choices I am down to are a New Holland LS 170 or a John Deer 250 series 2. Both seem to be very similar machines and the price is about the same. I wanted to know if anyone had any comments about the two and wich one I should lean towards. I will be using it for landscaping - retaining walls, rock hounding yards, loading materials, etc. Also, will it be necessary to get the high flow hydraulics?
    Any comments appreciated.
     
  2. AL Inc

    AL Inc LawnSite Bronze Member
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    The NH are good machines. I have a friend who ran the 170 for three years before trading up to the 180. I know he loves the New Hollands. I spent quite a bit of time in both machines and they are solid. I can't say much about the JD, I demo'd the 260 about 2 months ago, it seemed O.K. I have heard good and bad about them, more bad. Ask Randy Scott how he feels about the JD:angry:.
    I think the high flow would only be necessary for attachments like a cold planer or snowblower. Someone else may be able to shed more light on that.
    I'm not sure if you are set on only those two brands, I demo'd about 6 different brands before I bought my Cat 246. Check out the Cat, I think you will be impressed. Mike
     
  3. Striper

    Striper LawnSite Member
    from WV
    Posts: 32

    Thanks for the input. I have run New Hollands before at my previous job and they seemed to be great machines. I personally like the foot controlles on them. I have run Bobcat and they don't seem to have as much power and are slow with the hydraulics. Case has a good machine but my legs kept bumping the joystics and moving the bucket on rough terrain. I tested the John Deere and liked them but don't know alot about their track record. They have a little more horsepower than the N H, but are a lot louder. The N H hydraulics are faster too. I want something with a verticle lift. I'll look up Cat and find out. Thanks, again.
     
  4. kris

    kris LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I've checked out many over the years but New Holland hasn't been one of them.. I felt the JD's had to much plastic on them. I only gave it about a 10 min try and decided no. Not really fair perhaps.
    The guys would have went for a Cat last fall (especially the mechanic ...he felt they would be easier to service) when we had them all in to demo but we get such good dealer support from Bobcat and already have 5 in the fleet .... going with a new S220 seemed the logical choice. And we love it!
     
  5. AL Inc

    AL Inc LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Good dealer support is a big consideration. Downtime costs so much, it is a no-brainer to buy from a dealer who will keep you running, regardless of the brand. Kris, it is funny that you mentioned the JD having a lot of plastic. I thought the same thing, especially the 2 plastic panels you had to remove to access the sides of the engine. Not real impressive.
     
  6. mclrob71

    mclrob71 LawnSite Member
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    I own A JD 240 it has alot of power great vision as for the plastic it doesn`t bother me i don`t intend on beating my machines to the ground I also a 27 zts great machines and great Dealer WIC
     
  7. chesie

    chesie LawnSite Member
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    Definitely check out the Cats. They are great machines - they have taken the best aspects of all of the skid steers out there and combined them into one machine. We have a 242.
     
  8. Striper

    Striper LawnSite Member
    from WV
    Posts: 32

    I'll be checking out the Cat's today. I'ts raining here so it will be a good time to look around.
     
  9. kris

    kris LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Just so you know ..you can get either hand or foot control with Bobcat.
     
  10. AintNoFun

    AintNoFun LawnSite Bronze Member
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    we owned a few bobcats, and didn't like them. i have a new holland ls170 now, i love the thing to death. but i have also used my friends Cat, i don't know the serious but I liked it a lot as well. all comes down to price and the dealer..
     

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