New member seeking honest input on the john deee z910

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by 485DEERE, Oct 23, 2011.

  1. Jimslawncareservice

    Jimslawncareservice LawnSite Platinum Member
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    It wouldn't use hardly any. My 1445 with a 60" goes around 15 hours without filling up.

    What I meant was it sounds simple, until you get the lousy people at deere and other brands to make and release a mower like that. I just don't get the mentality of the mower manufactures these days.

    Build a 2,000lb mower. Make it ride rough as Hell. And it uses 2 gallons of gas per hour. Having a diesel like the one you mentioned, would save us 50%-75% in fuel savings.
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  2. Ridin' Green

    Ridin' Green LawnSite Fanatic
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    ....and, it wasn't that much heavier than the Kawi LQ gas engine of equal HP they used in the later 335/345 series.


    I knew that was what you meant Jim. I was just expanding on it a bit.:)
     
  3. LawnCareNoobie

    LawnCareNoobie LawnSite Senior Member
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    I'm aware of that. It's too bad really. I don't know why these machines are getting heavier either. But I can see where some of it is coming from. I think the frame of the new Deere is lighter weight, but it's the cast iron castor arms/forks and that heavy bumper on the back that gives it a lot of extra weight. Solid castor tires vs pneumatic.Then you have 11 gallons of fuel which adds around another 66 lbs (approx 6lbs gal), then the operators own weight on top. There's also the ROPs which wasn't standard on machines back in the day. Add it up and you get a much heavier machine.
     
  4. Ridin' Green

    Ridin' Green LawnSite Fanatic
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    Glad to see you posting again LCN

    I agree with most of what you just said except for the part about the frame. The C channel frame is really quite massive/heavy duty on both the 700 and 900 series (same exact frame inspite of what deere says in its literature. I have owned each and compared and measured them SXS. I'd bet good money that it actually weighs more than the smaller boxed frames on the earlier 700's.
     
  5. LawnCareNoobie

    LawnCareNoobie LawnSite Senior Member
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    Thanks, Glad to be back. Good to know that the newer frame is heavier. Too me, it just doesn't look that way. I thought maybe they made a lighter frame that's just as strong if not stronger. I'm just used to seeing the regular square tube style frames. lol
     
  6. Ridin' Green

    Ridin' Green LawnSite Fanatic
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    The steel C channel is about a 1/4" thick, and it is about 8" tall, growing in size to about 10"- maybe 12" tall at the rear. It's definately stout and stiff.

    Go to this link and and scroll down towards the middle of the page and look at the "tour" of the 900. Click on the dot at the bottom below the picture 7th from the left and take a look at the frame itself-

    http://www.deere.com/wps/dcom/en_US..._trak_mowers/pro900_series/pro900_series.page
     
  7. LawnCareNoobie

    LawnCareNoobie LawnSite Senior Member
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    Yes, I've seen it on the website. Don't forget I own a 925A. :) I have no doubt about it's strength. I don't think that Deere would make a frame that's weaker than prior models and it's competition. I just thought it would be lighter in weight that's all.
     
  8. Ridin' Green

    Ridin' Green LawnSite Fanatic
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    See what happens when you stop posting for a while? I end up forgetting all that info? LOL

    Actually, I didn't remember that you had a 900 mower. I thought that you had run only the previous 700 series mowers for someone, somewhere, for a living for a while, and still owned one of them.
     
  9. LawnCareNoobie

    LawnCareNoobie LawnSite Senior Member
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    I have two 727A's and a 925A. I used to have a 757 but I traded that in for the 925. I have a picture of my 925A in another thread. Don't remember which one but here it is. I also run an 820A at work (groundskeeper). So a bit of experience on different models.

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  10. Ridin' Green

    Ridin' Green LawnSite Fanatic
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    I remembered that pic as soon as I saw it. I also commented in your thread how it looked so nice and new. See what happens when you get older? You get a severe case of CRS.:hammerhead::hammerhead:
     

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