The bottom line is I want a new ztr mower with a 60inch cut for no more than $6000 I am looking a bad boy from TSC a Toro Titan 6050 and a JD 465. The JD has a 25 hp Kawasaki, the Toro has a 26hp Kawasaki and the Badboy has a 25h Kohler. They all have 60in decks except the JD and it has a 62in. TSC said the badboy will do 9-12mph but the web site said it will do 7mph so I think TSC is giving me a line. The toro will do 7.5 mph and the JD will do 9mph. The toro has a fabricated 10 gauge deck from EXmark. Not sure on the badboy but its thick, and the JD is a 10 gauge stamped deck. All the JD's have stamped decks(even the commercial ones). The badboy and toro has a hydro gear pump/transmission and the JD has one commercial style pump with 2 wheel motors. the badboy is the cheapest at like $5300 and the JD is $6000 The question is which should I buy? What would you guys buy and why? If anyone has any of these tell me how you like them.