Nice Remodel Project

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by SoDak, Mar 19, 2014.

  1. ducnut

    ducnut LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Isn't that river rock? :confused:
     
  2. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
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    Don't know. Doesn't Matter.

    Gravel is used for the bottoms of aquariums and for railroad beds. Mother nature doesn't line her forests, fields, wetlands, etc. with gravel :)

    The topic creator has the water feature. But it's surrounded with gravel. That water feature would really POP if it was blended into nicely mulched beds with perennials :)

    Like I said, overall I really like the work. But the gravel is a buzz kill.
     
  3. Groomer

    Groomer LawnSite Bronze Member
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    nice transformation!
    Really like the raised, curved planter with the knockout roses.
     
  4. ducnut

    ducnut LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I understand.

    I care for several properties with gravel beds. I'd love to replace all of it with mulch, as it just doesn't blend well with the softness of greenery.
     
  5. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
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    What happens is the customers will usually say "we want low maintenance, we don't want weeds, and don't want to mulch". So the lawn jockey turned hardscaper will say "oh, then we'll just put river stone down, it comes in blended colors......"

    When in reality a good designer will address the client's concerns of maintenance and weeding by carefully selecting and using perennials.

    A good example of a good use of perennials is the Washington National Zoo in Washington DC. I know most of you live across the country and will probably never make it to DC. But if you ever get to DC go to the National Zoo and check out the plantings. The entire grounds utilizes every perennial that grows in this region.
     
  6. bigviclbi

    bigviclbi LawnSite Senior Member
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    I completely disagree with the too much rock comment. DVS you are looking at what it looks like now. Unfortunately, too many people can't imagine what a new planting will look like in 2 years, let alone 5. When those plantings fill in, the riverrock will be at least 75% covered. The riverrock will provide the homeowner with much less maintenance than mulch would. Not everyone wants the upkeep associated with mulching large beds every year. Now I might have thrown in a few more evergreens since this place is gonna look a little bare come winter, but this is a great job from the hardscaping to the planting in my opinion.
     
  7. whiffyspark

    whiffyspark LawnSite Fanatic
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    It isn't any lower maintenance. Rock still allows weeds to grow every where
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  8. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
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    I think you're missing the point of perennials.

    Once they're established - practically no mulching will be required. Mulch is only needed in the infant days.
     
  9. bigviclbi

    bigviclbi LawnSite Senior Member
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    dvs-doubt it. check the name of my company, I'm pretty sure I know a thing or two about perennials..... If you don't mulch a bare bed in the spring, before the perennials fill out, you are gonna have tons of weeds. If you use the smaller rock as shown here, looks to be 1" or 3/4" and go 3" deep, you can control the weeds with a spring preen application and spot spraying. Whiffy, I know for a fact that my bucket of preen and spray bottle are gonna be less maintenance than re-mulching every year. You can argue the aesthetics aspect but not the maintenance. I agree that rock can be overdone, but I don't think it was here. Mostly I was just busting DVS'S balls, he loves to go on anti-gravel rants. I'm a big proponent of the p-word as well! Happy Spring!!!
     
  10. SoDak

    SoDak LawnSite Member
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    Not much mulch used out here on the prairie. Wind pretty much wins that battle. River rock is less expensive here too.
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