Ok guys here's the flood tip install

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by a plus bob, Jan 4, 2010.

  1. Rayholio

    Rayholio LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I've tried a few iron products.. the only one that get ANY results is the liquid iron like ferromec.. has to have an extremely high concentration.. I was apply at about 8 ounces per 1000 early on, and 6 oz per 1k was standard.. Sure made fir purdy lawns though..
     
  2. ted putnam

    ted putnam LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Lesco Chelated Iron + 12-0-0 works very well and have had excellent results spraying from PG Ultra and Z. Nice and clean, easy flowing as long as it is fresh. No gummed up tips or pumps. Leave the jug of concentrate in the back of the truck a few days in the sun and its not so good and you may have problems in a low volume situation. I think they recommend 3-6 oz/k.
     
  3. Rayholio

    Rayholio LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I believe ferromec is chelated iron.. 15-0-0 6% iron.. I've also used mor-green.. which was almost the same..

    At 6 oz per 1k they totally DESTROYed both the T3K and my Z's spray system.. but when you're applying at 1/4 gal per 1 k, and 6 oz per k.. my tank had over 3 gallons of iron, another half gallon or so of weed killer, a surfactant, and about 12 gallons of water.. The result after about 2 days of this was a solid yellow 'blob' at the bottom of the tank, in all the hoses, and clogging the filters.

    I won't even risk that again.. Injection is the only way.
     
  4. grassman177

    grassman177 LawnSite Fanatic
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    yup, another reason why i go 1/2 gal tips. i run a very thick organic fert with iron and have no issues at all.
     
  5. Grandview

    Grandview LawnSite Gold Member
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    The T3000 uses a Hypro Hi-Flow nozzle. It is an AI nozzle with a 140 degree pattern. This is a little wider than the flood nozzle the Permagreen uses. There is a lot less drift with the Hi-Flow. It is the most used nozzle on my Zs. I hardly ever use the boom except for trim. I think I tried the Hi-Flow nozzle on my Permagreen. It did not work, not enough pump capacity. I was using the White nozzle, 140-08.
     
  6. brizine

    brizine LawnSite Member
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    Thanks for the info Grandview. I will buy one and try it out.
     
  7. Grandview

    Grandview LawnSite Gold Member
    from WI
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    The White one (140-08) is the smallest size available.
     
  8. Grandview

    Grandview LawnSite Gold Member
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    Go to the Hypro website for more info.
     
  9. ted putnam

    ted putnam LawnSite Platinum Member
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    Mine are the 1/3 tips. I have had no issues using the products I use. I really only use Iron to counteract the yellowing of MSMA though. I don't use liquid iron for the sole purpose of keeping my lawns green generally. I have used it in lighter doses to get a few late lawns over that 2-3 wk "hump" right before first frost however. Like I said, the Lesco product is very clean(like pouring water). Unless you let the concentrate bake in the sun 4-5 days. I have noticed their chelated micro mix will leave an oily residue when mixed with other standard use products in the past.
     
  10. ZSpray Info

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    We try not to get involved in some of these arguments on Lawnsite. But regarding the tip, we feel we should respond.

    We will offer the Hypro wide angle tip as an option, but by no means do we think it is as effective as the current AI tips we currently use. In fact we just added the AI tips to our JR 36. As you can see by Bob's picks the single tip spray pattern seems to disperse wildly. particularly forward, where you can see the AI tips on the boom seem more controlled and we believe more precise. Also the pictures look to have benn taken inside where the wind would not be a factor.

    Boomless nozzles have been around for years. The tip in discussion has been offered by Hypro since 2004. The single tip can be effective in certain applications, but we do not feel it is the best primary spray system. LT Rich prides itself on offering its customers the most choices, and this tip is just another. A great analogy would be pick up trucks. What if Chevy, Ford and Dodge just offered one size of truck?

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