Started a thread, "Renovating a landscape." I started the thread with two lawns, Lawn A: -Background - 4200 sqft. - Front 2400- Bermuda lawn- Obvious compaction - Rear 2000- VERY sparse Bermuda lawn due to full shade- Want to turn into a fescue lawn - Objective: - Topdress front lawn with compost (will be done on Tues weather permitting)- In fall, tear up existing lawn, while lawn is mixed add in compost to a well desired mixture of compost and soil- Reseed and have beautiful fescue lawn established, hopefully requiring minimum inputs afterward due to added compost at better levels Lawn B: -Background - Front 2000, - Rear 2000- existing fescue lawn/weeds- front consists of long narrow strip near road, and patch near house- Rear is overrun with wild strawberries, has raised garden beds throughout, existing fescue lawn Objective: - Lawn is in bad shape with little grass and mainly weeds- Lawn is roughly 20 years old and surrounded by pines and hardwoods- Partial shade through out other than strip near street- Want to tear up existing lawn, should be easier than lawn A as ther is no sod, and reestablish soil with compost and then seed- Would like to change soil structure enough preferably that lawn will require minimum inputs in future I don't know how feasible it is to actually change the soil structure, I have not gotten this far into this stuff, I basically have gotten down that topdressing over time will add OM to the soil. I figure if it is mixed in well enough that this "time" that it takes with topdressing a 1/4" every so often will be dramatically shortened. Both lawns are small with small access points so no large heavy equipment. I believe the best bet will be a large tiller. Any info will be greatly appreciated, I have not had the opportunity to perform a job like this before and have at least 3 already lined up. Thanks, Oh, I will try to have pics as soon as possible.